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Council members to discuss plan to revitalize Salem’s downtown

March 28, 2013

SALEM — City Council’s Committee of the Whole, which includes all seven council members, will begin discussions regarding the Downtown Salem Technical Advisory Committee findings tonight at 7 in......

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concerned

Mar-28-13 6:46 AM

Tac would probably raise more money placing bets on how much an additional income tax levy or any new tax levy for this project was going to be defeated by. How many times do voters have to say "NO NEW TAXES" before these people get it. The voters have said no to providing money for basic services yet you expect them to spend money to help pretty up the downtown?? That sure sounds like something the citizens of Salem will go for. Not!!! Find a private investor that would buy the downtown area and develop it. I am sure there are many building owners downtown that would just like to get out from under those crumbling buildings and would gladly sell them their property to him for development.

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STofit

Mar-28-13 8:22 AM

Big old buildings equal high maintenance costs and high energy bills. No amount of lipstick will solve these problems. High energy costs have put the knife in the hearts of all downtown areas. The voters have elected people that seem to enjoy high energy costs caused by outrageous regulations on coal. Once all our power plants have converted to "no longer cheap" natural gas the rest of these massive buildings will come tumbling down. I remember the parking problem that plagued East Liverpool. Take a look at the downtown area there with Bing maps and you will see there is no longer a parking problem. Salem isn't far behind. When the manufacturers move out or close a city is doomed and what business that remains has to keep overhead low. The public should not have to subsidise a private business in any form. Make the building owners repair or remove these buildings the same as you do homeowners.

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swager

Mar-28-13 9:05 AM

The we are doomed statement says it all. Council policies got you where you are, and when this $50 doesn't work how much will they take next time? Cyprus comes to mind.

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ladybug

Mar-28-13 9:45 AM

Well here is the opportunity for all those in favor or against to go down and openly voice their opinions. Instead of all this whining and crying on here.That is your town,

Fix it up or let turn into a slum area.

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ladybug

Mar-28-13 9:46 AM

Well here is the opportunity for all those in favor or against to go down and openly voice their opinions. Instead of all this whining and crying on here.That is your town,

Fix it up or let turn into a slum area.

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ladybug

Mar-28-13 9:47 AM

Everywhere i go in your area it's empty bldg,run down housing and empty lots where good jobs used to be.

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naturwoman

Mar-28-13 9:54 AM

Salem has been looking shabby for years.Too bad it was a quaint little city at one time.

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ladybug

Mar-28-13 9:58 AM

Know it's just another Youngstown,Detroit, Chicago on a smaller scale.

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GrammarPolice

Mar-28-13 3:32 PM

If the prevailing attitude in the community looks at all like notSocialist's--that it's someone else's responsibility to solve this problem--the problem won't get solved.

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WatchDog

Mar-28-13 6:03 PM

Cahill says: "Any money paid by citizens would go to management and parking and to remove the buildings falling down on the streets."

Interesting use of tax collections heading for a possible election ballot.

Two million dollars to pay for management (City administration/City services, workers), parking (City service/workers) and buildings falling down on the streets. (City workers, razing and cleaning up debris from the sidewalks or privately retained, bid based services) and that of course, means city council is going to have to pass a few ordinances prior, which will no doubt open up the door of law suits.

I can't wait to see how City council justifies this tax collection attempt against the taxpayers. Accountability is about to take on whole new meaning.

Because this would be the only "LEGAL" taxation citizens can be asked to pay for when it comes to this project and it's accountability by use of public tax dollars anything else is against the law.

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WatchDog

Mar-28-13 6:03 PM

TAC is not a city service. TAC is not a recognized as a state registered legal organization. TAC is nothing more than a special interest group. PERIOD. It is against the law for a city administration to give tax dollars to a special interest group. It is against the law for any City Government to tax unfairly. If this city council even attempts to push through with any of this rhetoric that does not comply to legal tax collection it can be classified as TAX FRAUD.

There is no such thing as a “downtown Salem”. “downtown Salem” is only recognized with historical significance. Nothing more, nothing less. The only responsibility of the taxpayers is those streets and sidewalks. Our city council had better grow brains quickly.

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WatchDog

Mar-28-13 6:06 PM

The legal ramifications that will come from this is going to be COSTLY. I think it's time for the Mayor of Salem to send Mr. Cahill's plan to the Attorney General for an opinion to protect the interest of this entire city and it's taxpayers.

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swager

Mar-28-13 6:22 PM

They could just keep using the water dept. for money to throw at their failures. No vote, no defense for residents. Just don't make it public like last time.

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ladybug

Mar-28-13 6:41 PM

7:00 pm tonight in concil chambers,

This is a chance for those with a set of balls to put their money where their mouths are,

I guess it's just easier to set back and complain about everyone else./

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ladybug

Mar-28-13 6:42 PM

I hope the whole town turns into a pile of rumble.

Get a big dozer and plow it under.

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ladybug

Mar-28-13 7:11 PM

Not hard to figure why Salem is such a big failure.

Complainers out number the people trying to make a difference 10 to 1 .

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zerotolerance

Mar-28-13 8:01 PM

yeah just like i bet you will be there in the front row right bug??? running support for tax scheme that isn't nothing but another tax waste, but that's right, you don't live in salem, youre only objective is to come on here and bad mouth people with your crap. just because my job doesn't doesn't fit the council's schedule doesn't mean I have to take a day off from work to go babysit a city council, if these EO's don't have the smarts to do the right thing, i am not wasting my time babysitting them, their rears are going out the door on election day. i am fed up with busting my ***, trying to figure out how to feed my kids andkeep my own head above water, or how i am going to keep up my own home, then worry about fixing up some failing business district, then funding these pipe dreams of some slick willy like cahill screaming like a two year old for a tax handout that only shores up his failures, give me a flippin break.

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swager

Mar-28-13 8:50 PM

I lived in Salem in the 7os to the 90s couldn't pay me to go back. I lived where Richard Hubbard sr was killed at his front door by a shotgun blast with the crime still unsolved. Those who haven't figured it our yet deserve their situation. Your so called leaders play all of you as almost the whole city never pays attention. I haven't head of any he rion busts in town for the last 6 months where it is reported available 24/7

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thebear402

Mar-28-13 10:48 PM

Ladybug, are you serious when you say that Salem has turned into a smaller version of Detroit, Youngstown or Chicago?? You have to be kidding. Not even close. The most dangerous parts of Salem are safer than the safest parts of Youngstown--spoken from experience. What is the source of your hatred for Salem?

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ladybug

Mar-29-13 6:45 AM

1) I don't support taxing anyone to pay someone's else's prorty up keep/ 2) I get tired of all you people slamming anyone who has an idea to make this area a better place to live."Go down and voice your opinion where it counts.

3) From a drug and crime stand point .No Salem is not the same as Youngstown. From a run down trashy look it does.

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ladybug

Mar-29-13 6:51 AM

bear : I've lived in the area all my life and seen a thriving area reduced to nothing,

I've been involved in projects .It gets it get old when the same people try to make a little difference and all the others do is *****.

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ladybug

Mar-29-13 7:28 AM

Swager . Who elects these so called leaders. ?

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ladybug

Mar-29-13 7:31 AM

Zero . No i don't support taxing anyone to pay for this.

As far as struggling.Most people are in the same boat.

Finally the area is going to hell. It's needs fixed somehow or things will only get worse.

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oneperson

Mar-29-13 2:00 PM

In today's (3/28) Salem News Mr Cahill said TAC had not planned to close Broadway in any way shape or form. Thank you Mr. Cahill. TACs 70 page document does state: A geographical central point in the development area should be emphasized as a focal social, cultural, and meeting point. Broadway and State intersection was one suggested idea, as it could be expanded to accommodate green space for modest investment of parking space, "a handful of parking spaces" could be give up and roadway. A water element (fountain, sculpture) was agreed upon as a good idea to incorporate into this focal point. I do not see how one can put a fountain at the Broadway and State intersection for a modest investment of parking space, "a handful of parking spaces" could be give up and roadway without closing Broadway at State. Could we please have that recommendation struck from the TAC 70 page plan.

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edward16421

Mar-30-13 12:47 PM

Two things - first READ THE DOCUMENT - second learn how to spell. You complain but you offer nothing better. You complain about things that you make up! You repeat the same arguments after you have been proved wrong. What exactly do you want? Failure?

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