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Officials discuss risks from crumbling building

TanFastic structure has been downtown Salem problem for years

April 24, 2013

SALEM — The Economic Development Committee of city council listened to an update Tuesday on several topics, including development opportunities on the east and north ends of the city and the status......

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salem1361

Apr-24-13 7:52 AM

So in other words nothing was really said, nothing was really accomplished. Typical Salem affairs. Never really move forward just stagnate and crumble.

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rpmwwe

Apr-24-13 8:09 AM

Does anyone know exactly where on the north side they want to put the "convenience store, grocery store, two hotels, restaurants and ******iniums"?

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rpmwwe

Apr-24-13 8:13 AM

I guess I should have just shortened that to "condos" since the actual full word is apparently too graphic for comments (but okay for an article).

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salem1361

Apr-24-13 8:33 AM

Out by the North bypass where the new car dealership is located. But remember this is Salem and lately their whole goal has been to let this city deteriorate and leave the future behind. The powers that be own too many slum housing units in this once nice city and have no real vested interest in moving us forward. Salem is on a quick downward spiral and unless something drastic is done it won't change. What happened to the Perkins, the Olive Garden, the Applebees, the group that wanted to buy the Elks, the Holiday Inn that was supposed to be opened by Dec 2012. The city spends way too much time dreaming and never any time implementing anything.

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salem1361

Apr-24-13 8:37 AM

I also don't understand why Salem should have any money going out to fix the Fantastic building. The owners need to be held responsible and if we had a zoning office that was elected not selected maybe they would put some teeth into their laws and just do their job from the beginning. No house, building, apts. etc. should never be allowed to get to this state without fines. I helped with zoning in one of the best cities in this country and they turned themselves around by making everyone responsible for their city! This means homeowners, landlords, and business owners. But with all the infighting in Salem, with everyone trying to continue to fight for their own and not the good of the whole we will fail.

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 9:22 AM

I agree Salem 1361,

There's too many people in yoour town who doesn't want outside competetion from a resturant like Applebees or Olive Garden

As far as the Bldg, downtown,i can't believe that crap has beem allowed to go on this long.

They won't be happy until it falls out onto the street.

Then they'll have a lawsuit to deal with.

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 9:41 AM

Where's the $ 5000 coming from.

He'll find out if the bldg should collapse ans injures someone or causes damage elsewhere.

You have $ 1.3 million. Spend a little of there .

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GrantMingus

Apr-24-13 9:42 AM

From what I understand, the nature of this article is not only a poor representation of what is going on at TanFastic but basically just a big fat lie. The wall that is crumbling is a common wall, per the survey. They're pointing fingers while withholding information, and most of the readers are probably eating it up. "Those evil people who own that building aren't paying to fix it!" But no one bothers to ask why they aren't. Notice how every article in the Salem News about this issue has only has only represented statements from one side...and none of you are interested in what the other side of the story is. You'll just assume they aren't lying to you.

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rpmwwe

Apr-24-13 9:44 AM

Thanks for answering my question, salem1361. In regard to things only getting talked about and nothing actually getting built, I would first look at these out of state "investment" and "development" groups. One should ask why companies such as these are looking to build so far out of their home territories and why local companies are not interested in building here. There's usually a reason behind these sorts of things. I'm sure these investors and developers are getting wined and dined in exchange for their big promises but, overall, it sounds fishy to me.

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rpmwwe

Apr-24-13 9:44 AM

Also, I have read that there are a number of companies outside Ohio that are looking to leave their home states and relocate elsewhere with a number of manufacturing jobs due to recent changes in their states' laws. Has anyone from Salem wined and dined them?

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 9:45 AM

If both parties have ownership,Then both parties share responsiblity

Then both parties need to find a solution.I think after several yrs of this crap.Enough is ehough

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 9:50 AM

I believe the articile points out the fact of it being a common wall.

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Kozy62

Apr-24-13 10:06 AM

"competetion from a resturant like Applebees or Olive Garden"

I'm sorry but what competition?

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Kozy62

Apr-24-13 10:12 AM

rpmwwe Apr-24-13 9:44 AM: "Also, I have read that there are a number of companies outside Ohio that are looking to leave their home states and relocate elsewhere with a number of manufacturing jobs due to recent changes in their states' laws. Has anyone from Salem wined and dined them?"

Companies are slow to move because it costs a lot. But, if they get taxed to death and have union contracts with heavy pension costs...they seek States where there is a great tax advantage, friendly to business, right to work, low statutory costs and politically friendly...does Salem, Ohio have all those?

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 10:12 AM

Did you actually read my post Kozy ?

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 10:14 AM

They have that in China.All of the above.

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 10:17 AM

Salem down town buss didn't want Wal-Mart .Same reason others rest. owners don't want competition from Applebees or Olive Garden

You stand in line on the week end to get into both.

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Kozy62

Apr-24-13 10:18 AM

"When asked about the Holiday Inn Express development, he said they've tried multiple avenues to try to resolve the situation, which has been complicated by a deed restriction off of Cunningham Road near Home Depot. He said they've tried looking for alternative locations in the same area."

Who in the world did the due diligence on this project?

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ladybug

Apr-24-13 10:19 AM

If you check most companies are doig away with pensions and going with 401k's

Which puts the responsiblity more in the hands of the retire.

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questioner

Apr-24-13 10:22 AM

WHY was "A $5,000 proposal was provided to the city on Monday regarding an inspection to evaluate the structural integrity of the building inside and out" when Salem was awarded a grant by the state Historic Preservation office to do structural inspections of downtown buildings. "A team of volunteers composed of a construction person, a preservationist, a fire inspection, and an admin will inspect each of the buildings in downtown, looking for structural issues. They will do a report and once the reports are all done, they will choose the seven worst buildings to have an inspection by a professional engineer with both structural and preservation experience. The owners of the worst buildings will get that report, which is probably worth a couple thousand dollars, for free. The goal is to identify, first, dangers to the public, and secondly, buildings that could be saved with quick action." This is being done between now and June.

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Kozy62

Apr-24-13 10:22 AM

My point ladybug is that there is no "true" competition. That's like saying a motor scooter sales company does not want a Buick dealer to move in... both great products but don't compete. Who competes with the stores you mentioned?

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questioner

Apr-24-13 10:24 AM

So a free analyst that would probably include how to save the Butler building. Again, WHY are we even considering paying for what we can get with the grant already gotten? Surely people on Council know of the grant?

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Kozy62

Apr-24-13 10:26 AM

What are buss fuses used for? Why did they not want Walmart?

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Kozy62

Apr-24-13 10:29 AM

Surely people on Council know of the grant?

This is a very good question.

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Kozy62

Apr-24-13 10:32 AM

It's time to stop spending money like water through a sieve. Consultants need work too but in these times it is much better to use in house and just get it done.

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