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We’ll be secure without liberties

June 18, 2013

The issue of the National Security Agency having programs that have the capability of trolling through every American’s personal information and web surfing, as well as knowing at least the......

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EATTHERICH

Jun-18-13 9:05 AM

Check out an old movie called The Star Chamber.It's about a secret court.

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notSocialist

Jun-19-13 6:17 AM

"What happens to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence if the government is all too aware of every movement and thought of its citizenry?"

There are many who would trade their freedom for some imagined security. To paraphrase a Founder, "They deserve neither".

All this crap didn't stop the Boston bombing, and the Russians practically handed the perps to us.

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notSocialist

Jun-19-13 6:18 AM

Many of the alleged 'incidents' that proponents said this program stopped have been debunked already, cases that were solved by good old police work.

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ladybug

Jun-19-13 9:11 AM

Go back to pre-911 .Whine baby.

Their taking away all my liberty's GD G.Bush

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Phoenix

Jun-19-13 10:14 AM

Notsocialist, Since you seem to have such a strong opinion on this subject, I'll ask again, do you support the repeal of the Patriot Act and if so, did you support its repeal under the previous administration?

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rentss

Jun-19-13 1:02 PM

Notsocialist only takes his current viewpoint because there's a Democrat in the White House. Under Bush, the Notsocialists and Kozys of the world had no major problem with any of the NSA stuff. In fact, these were the people who thought wikileaks people were traitors. But then they change their tone when they think someone like Snowden may prove embarrassing to Obama.

These are people who care only about the GOP (which itself only cares about power, not the country). That's why they wrap themselves in the flag, it's a ploy to cover up the fact that they truly despise what the US stands for and hate most non-white & non-religious people. They're hypocrites, but luckily they're unlikely to win the presidency again during their lifetimes.

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notSocialist

Jun-19-13 1:15 PM

And I told you, phoenix, have the other two accounts you post with deleted, and I'll consider it.

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notSocialist

Jun-19-13 1:18 PM

Again, rent, you are totally backwards. It's your racist Democrat party that only cares about power and control. Republicans only want freedom.

I was cool with the part of the Patriot act while it was targeting OVERSEAS calls in/out of the States. I am not OK with blanket surveillance of the whole American people.

I hope this is FINALLY clear enough for you to understand.

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notSocialist

Jun-19-13 1:19 PM

Bug, get sober before you post. You still don't make any sense.

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rentss

Jun-19-13 1:36 PM

Nice talking points, Notsocialist. But your act has fallen apart, and now people see what it is that you really stand for. You're only an "American" when the GOP is in power, when they're not you're yelling about how the country's not the same, freedoms are being lost, etc. BS.

The NSA program is the same now as it was when Bush was in office. If you were actually informed you'd know that Snowden has stated a number of times that the reason he released the info was precisely because Obama didn't end the Bush-era policies.

You're angry because you've been caught red-handed as someone whose only loyalty is to the GOP. Country means nothing to you if your party isn't ruling it.

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Phoenix

Jun-19-13 1:59 PM

Sorry to disappoint you notSocialist but I only post under one account, hard to delete what doesn't exist. I have to admit, I do find it rather humorous that your arrogance makes it so hard for you to accept the number of people who come on here to disagree with you that you have to make up reasons to reduce that number, and you accuse other people of living in a fantasy world.

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Kozy62

Jun-19-13 3:04 PM

My concern was at the passing of the patriot act and continue to be concerned about over reach...next drones will be watching us all by using drones. Aren't you concerned?

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Kozy62

Jun-19-13 4:08 PM

Sorry, I meant to say next our goverment will be caught watching us with drones. Will you finally see how out of control they are if they do that?

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Kozy62

Jun-20-13 5:55 AM

That was quick...

The FBI uses drones for domestic surveillance purposes, the head of the agency told Congress early Wednesday.

Robert Mueller, the director of the FBI, confirmed to lawmakers that the FBI owns several unmanned aerial vehicles, but has not adopted any strict policies or guidelines yet to govern the use of the controversial aircraft. “Does the FBI use drones for surveillance on US soil?” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) asked Mr Mueller during an oversight hearing on Capitol Hill Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“Yes,” Mueller responded bluntly, adding that the FBI’s operation of drones is “very seldom.”

Asked by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California) to elaborate, Mueller added, “It’s very seldom used and generally used in a particular incident where you need the capability.” Earlier in the morning, however, Mueller said that the agency was only now working to establish set rules for the drone program.

And our government wonders why we don't

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Kozy62

Jun-20-13 6:06 AM

And the government wonders why we don't trust them?

Did you wonder how Obama knew you liked to grill steaks or that you had a garden? Or ever wonder how he knew you went to Church or didn't? Or how did he and the EPA know that that Farmer on Depot road was kicking u some dust when he plowed his field or that you buried something in your back yard?

So, they only watch foreign people...but in his speech yesterday Obama said "we don't listen to our citizens or German's or French's...then why the drones?

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:04 AM

"Sorry to disappoint you notSocialist but I only post under one account, hard to delete what doesn't exist."

Sorry, can't believe you. I've mentioned this several times without a peep from you.

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:04 AM

And you are a progressive hack, rent.

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:06 AM

Why don't you try addressing the topic?

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:11 AM

All these scandals come from the Obama Administration. All are from the top.

Of course, O isn't so stupid to put his name on something that can be used as evidence, but he is responsible for everyone under him.

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:14 AM

The Democrats stole the last election with the Internal Revenge Service targeting conservative get-out-the-vote groups.

Obama was terrified that the 2010 TEA party revolution would happen again. They had to stop it somehow, and targeting over 500 conservative groups to snail their applications. Obama's Organizing for America was fast-tracked.

LIe, cheat, and steal... the Progressive Democrat way.

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:15 AM

NO liberal groups were targeted by Obama's IRS.

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:16 AM

Hope you like my posts, rent. You love ME, don't you?

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:23 AM

I wonder why Obama has spent millions of taxpayer dollars to keep his college records sealed... no President in history has done the same.

What doesn't he want us to see? Maybe who it was who paid for his college? Maybe to see he was accepted as a foreign student? Who knows?

So much for the 'most transparent' Administration. What a joke, if it wasn't so sad.

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notSocialist

Jun-20-13 7:26 AM

"Nice talking points, Notsocialist. But your act has fallen apart, and now people see what it is that you really stand for. You're only an "American" when the GOP is in power, "

I wasn't even using this site when Bush was in office. You are a liar, and a Progressive hack, rent.

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Phoenix

Jun-20-13 7:39 AM

NotSocialist, "I've mentioned this several times without a peep from you." That's because I thought it was too rediculous to respond to,but since you wouldn't let it go I finally decided to set the record straight. Really don't care if you believe me, the truth is the truth.

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