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Time to trim back social programs

June 25, 2013

Liberals insist President Barack Obama’s “stimulus” program has worked to pull the nation out of the economic doldrums....

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concerned

Jun-28-13 10:29 AM

Good examples Kozy exactly the type things that I said they need some constraints put on them. If The federal government was required to operate only on the money that they had coming in and had a cap on the limit that they could tax I don't think they would be doing these things. Also a good thing would be to have each item stand on it's own and do away with these multiple spending issues on a bill. The pork barrel issues would soon disappear. Another problem is the federal government needs to stick to national and international issues and get their noses out of State and local government issues. Let the States take care of their own problems in their own way.

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Kozy62

Jun-28-13 8:53 AM

There is also the “Alaska seafood special”—language slipped into the bill by Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Mark Begich (D-AK) that will allow seafood processors to hire young foreign workers through a summer work travel program.

Cornyn is not alone in decrying the immigration bill’s taxpayer-funded crony giveaways to favored industries. Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said the bill is so riddled with corporate concessions that it “reads like a Christmas wish list for Haliburton.”

And last but not least...the bill’s inclusion of a crony capitalism casino kickback to Las Vegas casinos, inserted successfully by Sens. Harry Reid (D-NV) and Dean Heller (R-NV).

Sorry, but this is way wrong!

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Kozy62

Jun-28-13 8:33 AM

USA Today says the resort and au pair agency language will be a boon to these businesses:

The changes to the bill follow aggressive lobbying by resorts, au pair agencies and other industries that rely on the J-1 cultural-exchange visa program, which allows foreigners to enter the USA through 14 categories, ranging from interns to visiting scholars. The largest number, nearly 92,000 last year, entered as part of the summer-work travel category, federal records show. An additional 18,000 worked as camp counselors and nearly 14,000 as au pairs.

Businesses that hire these visa holders save money because they don't have to pay unemployment taxes, Medicare or Social Security. Participants must also have their own health insurance, another cost savings.

I thought there was an agreement to stop this pork practice!

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Kozy62

Jun-28-13 8:31 AM

And, the cost of the new immigration senate bill...

Lobbyists for resorts, au pair agencies, and the seafood industry successfully slipped special-interest perks into the Senate immigration bill, reports USA Today. And Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) successfully fought to include in the bill a $1.5 billion taxpayer-funded set aside for youth jobs programs.

The revelations are just the latest in what is shaping up to be a pork-laden immigration bill, says Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX).

“You're left with a bill that's chockfull of de facto earmarks, pork-barrel spending and special interest sweeteners, a bill that increase the on-budget deficit, but fails to guarantee a border that's secure and offers only promises, which historically Congress has been very, very, very, very bad about keeping,” said Cornyn on Wednesday.

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concerned

Jun-28-13 8:04 AM

Ladybug says"You cut food stamps and build tanks and jet engines we don't need .What world do you 2 live in ?" I assume you mean Kozy and I? Did you read what I wrote Bug? I said nothing about food stamps or tanks. I said it was compromise that got this federal budget completely out of whack. Compromise is what has built bridges to nowhere, corporate giveaways, and yes over the top social programs like Obama phones. Like I said it is lack of restraints put on the federal government spending that has caused this mess. If they were not allowed to spend more than they had and was not allowed to increase tax rates without a vote of the people this would be a totally different country. It would also be a fiscally sound country with a more stable economy. I think I live in the real world where change is possible and one thing is for certain it can't go on like this for ever. Eventually we will have to pay the piper.

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Kozy62

Jun-27-13 3:49 PM

To answer our question, even though it's really none of your business, "no".

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Kozy62

Jun-27-13 3:47 PM

I don't believe I mentioned the House.

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 12:02 PM

Kind of courious whose going to pas or inact all these changes concerned.since we haven't had a balanced budget or surplus since Clinton left office,

Also wonder what happened to the PayGo act of 2010

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 11:13 AM

Did you vote a split ticket Kozy or was it str,Republican ?

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 11:11 AM

I believe the statistics show between 55% and 61% continue to re-elect the same people. Gee.

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 11:05 AM

As far as the pork.Call or ***** to you senator or congressman.This BS has been going on forever,

Do you'll actually think they would consider a spending without including all this nonse .NO

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 11:02 AM

We have a spending bill do in sept ./Think it'll get resolved before the Aug, break or is it going to be another midnight deal.

Oh by the way i forgot to include the 4th of July break.There's another week gone,

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 11:00 AM

Kozy you say the house passed a student loan bill, Well it was all republican input with no input from the democratic side,

Now it sets in the senate

This was something that should have been resolved a yr ago, But oh no lets kick it down the a few months and argue about it again later.

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 10:55 AM

How do you ever exspect to balance a budget when getting re-elected ,buttering up to the lobbyist and big money comes first.Get real

You cut food stamps and build tanks and jet engines we don't need .What world do you 2 live in ?

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 10:51 AM

If both you check statistics you'll find most people continue to re-elect the same ole people I think the voters made it clear they wanted change the last 2 elections and nothing has changed . same old grid lock ,finger pointing and worrying about the next election and whose going to run.

It ain't ging to happen,Just like the country is headed towards the dumpsville

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 10:47 AM

THat makes real sense concerned.

Like a union contract or talks between 2 parties ,It take comprimise,concessions on both sides,.

The house passes a bill all republican ideas, The senate sets on it passes a bill all democratic ideas ,the house sets on it and nothing gets done.

They have 3 spending bill and arn't working on any of themCompromise means taking the best ideas from all and getting a solution

We have a seqester thts going to kill our military .No comprimise and before you shout Obama, The bill passed by 94 % in the house,

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Kozy62

Jun-27-13 10:43 AM

Yes, concerned...but find me even a few who would have the courage and then you still don't have the numbers to get past the party leaders. The American people need to get fed up and kick most of them out!

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concerned

Jun-27-13 9:55 AM

Actually Ladybug it is compromise that has gotten us into the mess that we are in now. Want to get a bill passed? Put a little pork in it for the opposition so they will vote for it just to get their pork barrel issues passed. We don't need compromise what we need is spending caps put on them that can not be raised without a vote of the people. We also need caps on taxes that can not be raised without a vote of the people. The federal government has an open check book that they can just keep spending without ever looking at the balance. They can raise taxes at will also. Compromise no!! Constraints put on them yes. But how do we do that? I think we have to get past party politics and vote for people that are willing to permanently change it and with an amendment to the constitution requiring those constraints. If there is one flaw in our constitution it is lack of federal government constraint as far as taxing and spending goes. The way it is now it's the fox watching the hen house

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 7:46 AM

And just what is it i said yesterday?

This my way or the highway ---- has to stop.

Rep vs Dem , House vs, senate ,Conservative vs. Liberal , Nothings getting done , They all need to grow up,

It's killing our country.

The game board is set until 2014 and 2016. Lets get on with it ,

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ladybug

Jun-27-13 7:39 AM

And your point.?

Like i said this swing goes both ways. Thats why nothing gets done.

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Kozy62

Jun-27-13 7:22 AM

WASHINGTON — Efforts to keep interest rates on new student loans from doubling appeared to be falling apart Wednesday as the Democratic leader of the Senate declared a bipartisan proposal unacceptable.

The proposal seemed to stall even before it had a chance to be considered.

The chamber’s top Democrat, Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, said he would not let it come up for a vote.

Undeterred, Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., said Wed. he would introduce the legislation on Thurs., along with Republican collaborators Sen. Coburn of Oklahoma, Sen. Alexander of Tennessee and Sen. Burr of North Carolina. Sen. King of Maine, an independent, also signed on to the plan.

And, who's fault is this?

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ladybug

Jun-26-13 10:29 AM

I don't know how many time OE nuclear power plant on lake erie has been shut down over the past few yrs for lack of repairs, Leaks Etc.

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Kozy62

Jun-26-13 10:27 AM

Got to go...have a widow in our Church who needs a job done at her house.

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ladybug

Jun-26-13 10:27 AM

No need to worry.Just like everything else it will never get past congress

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Kozy62

Jun-26-13 10:26 AM

"What would all these Dr's,Lawyers and people who been there for a hundred yrs. do for a free ride ?"

I'm for term limits anyway.

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