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Nestic: Salem, Perry Twp. must work together

August 7, 2013

PERRY TWP. — Salem City Councilman Dave Nestic announced Tuesday he’s running for a seat on the Perry Township Board of Trustees this fall....

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WatchDog

Aug-08-13 11:48 PM

"objective was to establish a means by which the city could efficiently accomplish active economic development efforts."

Got to hand it to Nestic...he can blow smoke with the best of them!

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concerned

Aug-08-13 2:17 PM

"It's the way it was done. If it was meant to serve both enities.it would have be done openly."

It could have benefited both entities, but the reason it was not done openly is because it was not being done properly or for that matter legally. If you are doing something legally and properly there is no need to hide when you are doing it. Officials from both entities were, shall we say, less than honest with the way they approached the idea. But there is only one that is running for the trustee office this time around that was involved in that fiasco and that is Mr. Wolford. Neither Mr. Rudibaugh, Mr. Kendrick, Mr Nestic nor Mrs. Cope were involved in that mess. It will be an interesting race to say the least. But it will be a race where the majority of the votes will come from city voters.

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 12:25 PM

It's not the idea.

It's the way it was done. If it was meant to serve both enities.it would have be done openly.

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 12:23 PM

Ok

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concerned

Aug-08-13 11:23 AM

Ladybug everything you said is basically facts. But the reason the Twp. did not get to vote is because there is no provision in a twp form of government for voter initiatives. Twps. are subject to following the procedures set forth in the ORC. for twp governments. A fire district is actually a separate entity and thus has to have it's own funding. Had a fire district been properly formed the twp. and the city voters would have gotten to vote on the funding of a fire district tax levy which would have replaced the twp.'s current tax levy they have for their current fire protection. But the fire district did not get legally formed so there was no vote. The whole thing was a mess from the start and improperly developed all because no one really studied out what they were doing and the proper way to go about it but rather they thought they could do it their own way. Which proved to be a disaster.

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 8:46 AM

How the township fire dept is set up had nothing to do with the fire distr or anyone giving it's residents a chance to vote on it.

The trustee's went over the residents heads .just like city council tried to do

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 8:41 AM

Jerry twisted the arm's of the other 2 trustee's with promises of water and sewer hook up's

The of 2 tried getting it rushed threw council.

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 8:37 AM

Was any of this fire distr, fiasco held out in the public to get input and feelings of all parties ? No

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 8:35 AM

As far as the annexation of the race track and properties going out to the race track.

We didn't get a chance to sign that petition either

That's why most township residents are against combing the 2,

It.s all a money grab by the city to increase it's tax base.

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 8:31 AM

There was no levy.

The vote was to decide weither or not to let the city form a fire distr,

Twnship voters got no say.

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 8:29 AM

It had nothing to do with properly.

The voters did not want it period by a deciding 65% vote.

The only thing done inproperly is how these 3 amigo's snuck around everyone's back to try and get it implemented

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concerned

Aug-08-13 7:57 AM

"The citizens of the township didn't get to vote I meant. Where's our rights ? Since where all one "

Those outside the city didn't get To vote because they are no part of the city. Twp. area outside of the city has to follow the Ohio Revised Code which dictates how their fire depts. are run. Had they done the fire district properly the twp. would have gotten to vote on the fire levy that would have had to been put on the ballot which would have supported the district. But the city in their infinite wisdom did not try to set up the district properly. Had they done it properly, it would have required a vote of the whole fire district to support it and those outside the city would gotten to vote to finance the fire district or not. No support no district. It could have been a good thing if they would have explained it right and done it properly, but they decided they were going to do it their way and ignore the proper procedure set out in the Ohio Revised Code.

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concerned

Aug-08-13 7:30 AM

Think a minute ladybug before you jump down my throat. All I am saying is: it is all voters in the township that votes for the trustees, the city included. So who has the most votes and in essence, is the deciding factor of who the office holders are in Perry Twp.? It is the city voters. The city is Perry Twp but not all of Perry Twp is the City. Why do you think City residents are allowed to run for Twp positions If the city is not part of the Twp? They are permitted to run because they are residents of the Twp.!! Messed up? in my opinion it is, but that is the way it works. The voters of the city still play the biggest roll in who is and who is not in power in the twp. whether you or I like it or not. So yes we are all one when it comes to deciding who is going to lead the twp.

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 6:34 AM

I asked to sign that petition and was told as a twn, resident I cou;dn't

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 6:32 AM

The citizens of the twn didn't get to sign or vote when uncle Jerryand the City was trying to annex the race trackand property leading out to it

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 6:30 AM

The citizens of the township didn't get to vote I meant.

Where's our rights ? Since where all one .

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 6:29 AM

And by the way the citizens didn't get a chance to vote on the fire distr,

You know the voters should have decision before turning things over to the city

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 6:24 AM

And there's still citizens in the twn. waiting for that free water&sewer hook up under that failed deal'

Where's the concern here on the cities behalf ?

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 6:21 AM

The township voted for the fire distr, after they thought city council was going to ram round it threw,

Until citizens forced a ballot vote

They are still 2 separate enities

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ladybug

Aug-08-13 6:18 AM

I'm curious concerned.

Since you claim where all one,

Do you pay the township tax on you property tax dup to cover police,fire and roads,

If where all oneWhere's my city fire,police and street service,And most of all why do I pay nore for water and sewer ?

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concerned

Aug-07-13 9:15 PM

KsbUG79 so what do you propose these candidates for Twp Trustee are suppose to tell the city residents that they ask to vote for them. Let see should they say I don't give a hill of beans about you city people and I am not going to even take you into consideration when I make my decisions but would you vote for me? unfortunately that has been the attitude of trustees in the past. I remember when Mr. Wolford was last a trustee that he and the other two trustees voted to go ahead and form the fire district after the voters in the city overwhelmingly voted no to forming it. I don't call that representing all the people that voted to put them in office. I think you must have those trustees mindset. which is only think about a third of the people that votes to put them in office. There is some great representation.

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concerned

Aug-07-13 8:55 PM

KSbug79 says: The city is their own government & the twp is their own. And the trustees serve the citizens of Perry Twp." Seems to me they should have an obligation to serve the whole twp. and those that vote them into office. Which includes the city. I believe Mr. Nestic just stated that it was news to him that he was moving. doesn't sound to me like he is moving. If one doesn't study a situation out how does one do any planning? Perhaps it is because the officials of this area have not studied things out over the years, that they have never came up with any real plans for the future, but are always just reacting to current events.

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DaveNestic

Aug-07-13 8:21 PM

I'm moving? News to me.

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KsBug79

Aug-07-13 5:03 PM

Concerned, you're not telling us anything we don't already know. What needs to be pointed out is how dishonest Nestic is from the start. When the reporter asked him, don't you think the first ward will feel like you have deserted them, was his Perfect opportunity to say, I have to give up my seat because I'm moving into the twp. No, what does he say, I'm not deserting them, I can serve them from the twp trustee position. That's a crock!! The trustees do not serve any ward in the city because they can't. The city is their own government & the twp is their own. And the trustees serve the citizens of Perry Twp. And we don't need any new Studies in the Township!! VOTE NO ON NESTIC!!!

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concerned

Aug-07-13 3:35 PM

Some of you think the twp. and the city are separate but they are not. Fact number one. Salem is part of Perry Twp and city voters vote on the trustees. There are more registered voters in the city than there are in the balance of the twp. Fact number two the city voters are the ones that are the determining factor of who gets elected township trustee. Perry Twp people outside the city limits are not the sole deciders of who is and who is not a trustee. Before someone jumps all over me I didn't say I agreed with the way it is, but that is the truth of the matter. City twp.voters outnumber non city twp. voters, so it only stands to reason that city voters are the ones determining who is and who is not a twp. office holder..

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