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Planning board to consider ordinance restricting drilling to industrial zones

August 8, 2013

SALEM — The city Planning Commission will meet at 4:30 p.m....

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WatchDog

Aug-10-13 3:17 PM

I follow you concerned. I understand your points too. I can understand that the drilling industry needs those assurances BUT we as Ohioans need our assurances too.

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Truth101

Aug-10-13 1:27 PM

drill here drill now, drill baby drill. I want a well in my front yard. One in my back one too. Energy independence low prices.

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concerned

Aug-09-13 8:43 PM

Watchdog don't get me wrong I totally support the city on this. I think it is their best hope to try to control where these wells are put. But like I said as it stands now the State controls where the wells can and can not be put, not the city. Like I said that was by design. I am sure these oil companies had to have gotten some assurance that some local government could not stop them from drilling. I am sure it was a something they required before they came into Ohio and started throwing money around. Quite frankly if I was them I would not have come in and spent all the money they have without the same assurance.

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WatchDog

Aug-09-13 11:56 AM

So I fully support the City with this. Do we want Salem to stay quaint Salem or do we want another OIL CITY on our hands. Regardless of whether or not that ordinance is worth the paper it is written on. I think it is mostly about protecting the liability against our city. In other words, if a neighborhood gets stupid, the rest of the City won’t be held liable because of it. I think the City is smart to do this.

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WatchDog

Aug-09-13 11:55 AM

The State does hold the power and I don’t think they should have that. Can we trust the State to do it right? Depends on the legislator I’d say. That is not a good thing.

Think about the consequences if the State continues to have that power. Would you really want your neighbor next door to you to have a drilling rig in their back yard? What is it going to do to home values? Ever try to sell a home next door to a drilling rig? Concerns of Safety for children? One rig gone bad and an entire neighborhood will be affected. Those royalties are tempting for any homeowner or business but what about the lawsuits that will fly because of it? The same things that SolutionsVsRhetoric talked about. The neighbor may have the rig but what neighbor isn’t getting the royalties two or three doors down?

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WatchDog

Aug-09-13 11:55 AM

"I don't know why the state would even be considering such a law."

concerned I think you just answered that question in your comment as to why the State would consider passing that law. It's a counter measure to stop City's from passing these same very ordinances our city council is trying to pass. Let's face it...Salem could not afford that law and the State knows it.

Here's my opinion whether it means anything to anyone or maybe just to make people think about what we never read or hear about. I fully support drilling. But I don't support drilling inside residential neighborhoods or near schools, parks, etc. I agree with the City on this. People need to stop and think about the consequences down the road of this. That law is already being hatched in other states right now. If I am not mistaken, Texas passed or is about to pass this same law. We have State legislators right now talking about it right now. The point is simple.

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concerned

Aug-09-13 10:10 AM

Sorry about that typo on your name watchdog.

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concerned

Aug-09-13 8:18 AM

whatchdog What law is it that is being floated on the table? I don't know why the state would even be considering such a law. As it stands now, the State has the final say regardless of what a local government passes or does not pass. You think the State is going to do anything that might effect the oil companies in a negative way, after they have spent billions of dollars. Don't you think the oil companies struck up some kind of deal with the State that would prevent local governments from stopping them from drilling where they wanted to drill for their investing in the State? I don't think the State is going to give up anything. They hold all the cards and they are going to play them as they see fit. I think the State may be the ones that would face some problems if the State went back on this now and let local governments dictate if and where drilling was going to take place. These oil companies just have too much invested to back off now.

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WatchDog

Aug-08-13 11:57 PM

BUT, there is one problem the city better hope that doesn't happen. That the State passes the law that is being floated on the table right now. "It would mandate that local governments that pass those laws compensate property owners who are prohibited from drilling. In essence, if a city says a company can’t drill on your land, they may have to pay you what the drillers would have in royalties."

Wonder if the city is preparing for the fight too?

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WatchDog

Aug-08-13 11:15 PM

This is going to shock some coming from me as hard as I am on our administration and council but I agree with this ordinance. In fact, I am disappointed I think 500 feet is to generous.

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concerned

Aug-08-13 4:43 PM

State law will trump city law every time. The best the city can hope for is to try to control where wells will be and hope that the state will honor their wishes. But when it comes right down to it the city can make all the laws they want but in the end the state will decide where wells will go. Oil and Gas companies did not come into Ohio and spend billions of dollars for some one horse local government to tell them where they could or could not drill. My guess is that is why the state took over the deciding of where wells could be put to start with.

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SolutionsVsRhetoric

Aug-08-13 1:12 PM

A restriction on where a well pad can be placed makes a lot of sense, but trying to confine a wellbore 7,000 feet below the surface to an industrial zone seems to be a stretch to me. These wells can extract oil and gas from land 8,000 feet away from the well pad. That would be blocking access to millions of dollars for property owners for oil and gas that they own under their land. It seems that would cut the city out of a lot of tax revenue as well. I hope that these officials are doing their homework and understand potential consequences for their actions.

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