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Shooting range options sent to council

November 13, 2013

City council will have to decide whether to allow indoor shooting ranges for both commercial and residential or restrict the indoor shooting to just commercial venture....

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GrantMingus

Nov-13-13 9:19 AM

So, in other words, no one really knows why we don't want to allow people to build a shooting range on their own property, but we know that we probably don't want to allow them to. Because trouble, or something like that.

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rpmwwe

Nov-13-13 11:53 AM

Yes, if it sounds "scary" then its not worth investigating any further, and there's no sense in educating one's self in a particular subject matter if one has already decided if he or she is against it.

However, I find it ironic that a commercial range (i.e. another source of tax revenue) which would have lesser building requirements (can be above ground) is being considered because those ranges would be in commercial zones rather than residential zones. How many of those eligible commercial zones are immediately adjacent to, or down range from, a residential zone?

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rpmwwe

Nov-13-13 11:58 AM

Before council jumps to any conclusions, why don't they check with other cities that allow such facilities and find out what, if any, problems those cities have had?

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GrantMingus

Nov-13-13 12:28 PM

I don't care much either way, except commercial ranges should move forward. All I know is if you're going to make a case against someone building their own range, then make a case. Not just, "it might be trouble".

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swager

Nov-14-13 5:57 AM

Have no fear. Council will handle it just like scrap yards. No idea what to do, but will do it anyway.

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ts1227

Nov-14-13 9:30 AM

Checking with other cities won't help. They did that with regards to how to make the skate park work, and instead did the opposite and spent the grant money on flowers.

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WatchDog

Nov-15-13 3:19 PM

"Boy, I tell you, that's scary in a residential area," he said."

Huh? Maybe I missed something here and somebody can make me understand this but how did all this get started? That our City council is now tied up trying to regulate what has been happening for a long time. I don't know if I should even say this, but my husband and I have a close friend that turned his basement into a target practicing area almost 7 years ago. I don't even think his neighbors know about it. It is just a hobby. He has taken every precaution of safety. He exists and nobody had a cow about it. It was just everyday life. NOW THIS. He is in a residential area. There is probably others that have done the same thing. I guess my question is what horrible act has happened that would force our City Council to believe they have the right violate a constitution of what people do inside the privacy of their own homes? I can't get my head wrapped around this.

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WatchDog

Nov-15-13 3:25 PM

Then you throw in Morrissey playing the fear tactic game...oh the horror of it. Has the fear of guns been driven this deep to a panic button press on everything?

How many headline news story do you read about some commercial indoor range tragedy unfolded tales? NONE

How many indoor sportsman stories do you read about some guy turned his basement into a shooting area and wild bullet went up and flying out a basement window and sailed down the street and shot a City Planning & Zoning Officer in the butt?

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WatchDog

Nov-15-13 3:33 PM

All the regulations in the world will not prevent some idiot from doing this, there going to do it regardless. It is going to be a total wasted law. The cops will not be able to enforce it until an actual crime occurs from it.

And if the nutjobs didn't think about doing this...they are now, with all this publicity and saga...sheeesh.

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

Nov-20-13 6:30 AM

Mr Drummond and I both have gone to other areas where indoor shooting ranges are permitted and checked out the situation. We have also reviewed all the laws and regulations that t,he state has in place and they are extensive and actually impressive. Council is in no way attempting to restrict what can be done on someone's property. In fact, just the opposite. These ordinances would remove a few restrictions that are in place now. At this time, no shooting is permitted in the city limits except to defend your life or by a police officer. Two codices will go before council. One change the ordinances to allow indoor shooting ranges for commercial use in commercial and industrial areas and two, permit shooting ranges in specific , meaning larger lots, residential area for use privately. Also remember when you buy property in an incorporated area such as a city, there are always rules and restrictions in that area.

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

Nov-20-13 6:39 AM

It may not be popular with bloggers, but I voted no to the indoor ranges in residential areas for many reasons. One is noise. Noise in residential areas is the biggest complaint people call and come to council regarding. I want residential areas to be safe peaceful places for resident to enjoy home life. And my constituents have supported that view overwhelmingly. Every indoor range I investigated had noise being generated outside the area. Some louder than others and some fairly quiet, but all generated some. I have been around guns all my life and have a healthy respect for them. I shoot in areas and at hours that typically would not disturb people. Part of my job is to view new ordinances from all sides, so I vote let people shoot in commercial ranges or rural areas away from the public and let people relax in peace and live in residential areas. Also, the news covers as much as they can in the space provided, but if you want to see the whole story, come to the meetings.

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swager

Nov-20-13 6:08 PM

In residential areas where they relax and live in peace you can be robbed, stabbed, live next to multiple meth labs and have your vehicle shot on the main street. Those proclaiming to protect the unwashed from activities where her oin is for sale 24/7 on any street as written in this publication, might not want to say it too loud. The law abiders who practice defending themselves stand the best chance of making it home at the end of the day.

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

Nov-21-13 6:22 AM

Swagger, I agree wholeheartedly that citizens should have and DO have the right to defend themselves everywhere. Unfortunately this economy and climate of hard drug use makes the world less safe than ever before. That is one reason I am in favor of a commercial indoor range. New business in the city is a plus, a place for citizens to learn and practice shooting skills, and a facility for our police officers to practice would be welcome. I believe that the more any person practices the less dangerous they will be handling a gun and more likely to stop an intruder without endangering others. We need to beef up the police force with more officers and a police dog. Crime is crazy here. We also need to encourage citizens to take concealed carry courses.

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GrantMingus

Nov-21-13 9:33 AM

Thank you Cyndi. While I may disagree about residential (although as I stated earlier, I don't really care much either way), I'm glad that you at least explained your stance with a completely reasonable argument.

And I have to LOL @ Watchdog, who says "I guess my question is what horrible act has happened that would force our City Council to believe they have the right violate a constitution of what people do inside the privacy of their own homes? I can't get my head wrapped around this."

...it's funny that you can apply this to guns, but not marijuana.

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