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Salem council raises housing fees

December 18, 2013

SALEM — City council voted 6-1 Tuesday to increase the annual housing occupancy fee from $15 per unit to $30 per unit, passing all three readings at once for an amended version of the ordinance....

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ts1227

Dec-21-13 7:56 PM

I don't think everything has a "negative atmosphere" in general. On this board? Sure... internet boards are the angriest places on Earth, and we know the majority of people here are pretty far out of touch with reality.

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ladybug

Dec-21-13 10:56 AM

Thanks ! You too.

I think i'll go with grape.

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concerned

Dec-20-13 2:17 PM

Whatever ladybug. Go drink some more kool aid and put your head in the sand. O by the way Merry Christmas.

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 12:13 PM

Well said . But it appears to be more of a negative atmosphere in Salem rather than a positive one.

Everything that comes up is meet with opposition.

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UticaShaleIsASavior

Dec-20-13 12:07 PM

Campaign that is bold but way too soon. There will ALWAYS be arguments but wouldn't it be refreshing to talk about there not being enough low income housing in this town? Once again, The Utica Shale can truly be our economic boom but we don't bring in experts or specialists and try to ban drilling in city limits without much direction or explanation. That scares businesses and people away. Having the discussion is great but bring in experts! We don't even have a flier to give to companies to encourage their folks to live here! This wont be handed to us, we as a city have to go get it.

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UticaShaleIsASavior

Dec-20-13 12:02 PM

Arguing that this is NOT a tax is silly. It is. Now, how do we learn from this? First, we need better enforcement on the housing codes as it relates to the outside of the home, which is most accessible. Make Salem more appealing. I would argue that 85-90% of the landlords are smart reasonable people in this town, it is up to them to hold the others accountable. Much more importantly, we have done NOTHING to recruit oil and gas professionals to this town. There's a boom going on all around us and we have done nothing to try and capture high quality tenants and neighbors. Trust me, these aren't wild "cowboys" that some want you to believe. They have money and are willing to spend it. Guess what happens next....rents can be paid, quality tenants return to town, drugs leave, landlords can improve their properties and they may even have some expendable income to spend in downtown. Instead, we tax, complain, and get the cart before the horse with "save downtown without any m

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 11:42 AM

And while your making a list of the gov, agencies and why,

Show which one of your const. rights are being violated " Yours "

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 11:30 AM

I have all the freedom in the world, Nothings changed here.I have no one wanting my guns or intruding on my rights Gee I feel so lucky.

I got more to think about than p p s---- [ike that

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 11:27 AM

Well you did complain and couldn't understand why the old didn't last forever.

I have the respect in the world for the const. and peoples rights.

I also know this isn't 200 yrs ago and things change and laws change .

And if they need to come in my house and have a legitament reason so be it.!!!!!!!!

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concerned

Dec-20-13 11:22 AM

Bug says: "I remember right you where complaining about the fire dept wan"ting a new truck !!!Not to long ago. Well I don't remember ever complaining about the fire dept getting a new truck. I have always been a supporter of good fire service. I may have suggested what I believed would be a better more efficient way to deliver that service but I have always support the fire dept. I am really sorry you don't have any respect for the very document that gives us the freedoms that we have I.E. The Constitution. I bet if the government was coming in your home annually checking it out you would be singing a different song. All the crap you complain about remember it is just the law, that allows being done what is going on. Just accept it bug.

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 11:04 AM

If I remember right you where complaining about the fire dept wanting a new truck !!!Not to long ago.

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 10:44 AM

My reasoning concerned is it's the law . And if you don't like it challenge in court or go to a council meeting and protest.

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 10:43 AM

If you don't like the system here .Move to China and work for peanuts,no benefits, unsafe conditions.

And if you don't like it they'll shoot your butt or put you in jail

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 10:40 AM

The republicans are the key to the future, Stick it to the little people and make sure the rich and powerful keep theirs.

What they don't get honestly they can steal it.

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 10:37 AM

That's right concerned that's how my mind works. It's the law.

Go fight it in court.

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 10:36 AM

Some times your whining I don't understand either concerned.

That's life , Take it to the supreme court.

While your at it make a list of the gov, agencies you think we don't need and why.

Just remember Bush added the TSA ,Homeland Security and Doubled the Border Patrol to the tune of billions.And where still for for 2 wars and will be for the next 60 yrs.

For a few measley bucks your sure get up set. $2.5 /montgh. don't worry the gov. will end up paying the tab.

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concerned

Dec-20-13 9:57 AM

Bug says: "I see nowhere that an inspector has a right to walk into anyones home without prior permission."

O I see how your mind works bug. People are not forced to let them inspect their property BUT they will be fined $100 for not allowing them the first time and $200 for subsequent denials. I guess in your mind if you hold a gun to someone's head as you rob them that you really didn't rob them, that they gave it to you. Sometimes your reasoning I just don't understand. : )

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Truth101

Dec-20-13 9:18 AM

Just remember everybody. Keep voting Republican so we can have a lot more of this b u l l c r a p. Oh, Mr. Drummond, by the way, a fee is not a tax? I suggest you run that by Rushbo, Fox news and the Republican national committee and see if they agree with you.

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 8:42 AM

Yes concerned government is too big and costly.

Now what are you going to eliminate ?

Because now you to deal with the lobbyists and the politicians who are afraid of losing a vote,

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ladybug

Dec-20-13 8:27 AM

1) I see nowhere that an inspector has a right to walk into anyones home without prior permission.

2)The some of these properties deteriate the more it will attract undesirables. Then you will be complaining about drugs and crime.

3) Government increases in size because people keep demanding more and more from it,

This country is sinking because of greed ,Where slowly turning into a 2 class society and fianally the leadership in both parties worry more about the next election ,getting a vote rather than compromise and do the peoples work.

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concerned

Dec-20-13 5:47 AM

Bug says: "And I don't think they violate anyones rights as long as the law is fallowed" That is the heart of the issue. The constitution is the law Ladybug. It is the acid test for all laws. If laws do not follow it then they are deemed to be unconstitutional. If the constitution is not the foundation for all laws then anything goes. The idea that what ever the government wants to do is right, all they have to do is pass some law and it is legal without requiring it to stand the constitutional test, is what has gotten this country in the shape it is in. We have a bloated government that is spinning out of control that we can no longer afford to pay for and that is trampling our rights and freedoms daily. The government going into someone's home without cause and without a warrant is a violation of the constitution. A person's home is their private domain whether it be a house or a tepee.

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GrantMingus

Dec-19-13 8:11 PM

Oh alright, now I get why it was viewed as an emergency. Government puts the cart before the horse, as usual. I wish I could go buy a new car and THEN go tell my boss I need an emergency raise because my finances aren't right.

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ladybug

Dec-19-13 7:01 PM

They only had t-pees a 190 yrs. ago.

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ladybug

Dec-19-13 7:00 PM

2100 + rental units div. by 50 = 40/wk. or 8/day plus paper work and follow up is a lot of work for a person working 30 hrs/wk.

And I don't think they violate anyones rights as long as the law is fallowed. Your entitled to your opinion if this is needed or not,

To always make a job like it's some made up fabricated job gets old.

Most of your cities have different depts. to enforce codes,

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ladybug

Dec-19-13 6:43 PM

You know concerned I can understand your views,

But I think you find out what the job entails before always critizing

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