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Counseling, not jail, ordered in Salem burglary

March 11, 2014

LISBON — A Lisbon man who walked into a Salem home more than a year ago was ordered to successfully complete a counseling program to avoid prison time in Columbiana County Common Pleas Cour....

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WatchDog

Mar-16-14 3:57 PM

questioner that is a great post. The saddest part about America is this country is a rut. People are suffering depression, hardships, family problems, and we tied to Government that just continues to harm it. Our Government is creating this. It has bled over so bad that people are turning to crime to survive and using health issues to get out of those crimes. Our healthcare dynasty is a huge problem in this and nobody wants to admit it. We lost this system and it is spiraling downwards.

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questioner

Mar-14-14 11:23 AM

Hey, I got another man who needs special consideration. Our guy: "at the time, Lewis was "less than coherent." King noted there were both medical and psychological issues Lewis was suffering from"

And now: The lawyer for a man charged with killing his 2-year-old daughter by tossing her into a creek while still strapped into her car seat said Wednesday the real question for the jury is not whether he did it but whether he was thinking clearly that night.

"It is our contention that he did not act knowingly and purposefully on that day but, rather, recklessly. Can your ability to think clearly be affected by lack of sleep, losing your job, staying in your car? By homelessness, by the end of a major relationship in your life?"

There ya go. Even tho he weighed down the car seat with a tire jack. (As he put it, "like a ball and chain")

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WatchDog

Mar-13-14 5:03 PM

Oh and one more thing ladybug, before you freak out over what I said about Obama and go nuts. I will head you off at the pass. The same thing was going on under GWB. It just keeps getting worse with each President thrown into the fray. Deeper and deeper we go.

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WatchDog

Mar-13-14 4:51 PM

Thus this case with this guy. They didn't even stick him in ankle bracelet and he walked out of that court room with a smile on his face and FREE TO ROAM.

In the meantime, NOBODY knows what crimes he will commit again UNTIL he gets actually caught because we have no idea what crimes he committed and didn't get caught on.

NO WIN.

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WatchDog

Mar-13-14 4:45 PM

...they go into court systems and use and abuse the EXPERT TESTIMONY that their addictions and mental health conditions is what MADE them do the crime. It is just going to be another revolving door system at our expense to go along with our own premiums that are going to go up up and up along with our taxes to fix the debt Obama created and WASTED. God help anybody who questions the Medical profession for FRAUD, ABUSE and WASTE. It is a NO WIN.

So one day in America, when are all victims and prisoners in our homes, with no protections from the very same growing number of criminals and we all financially ruined and that the mercy of Government. The only thing I can tell you is su ck it up and get out your checkbooks as it creeps along.

You hate my ideas remember? You get mad at me and insult my opinions for trying to wake people up. People go ballistic if I even make mention of it. NO WIN.

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WatchDog

Mar-13-14 4:44 PM

The feel good programs we are dumping millions and millions of tax dollars into trying to rehabilitate them through education doesn't work.

The billions of dollars we spend giving to mental healthcare system, addiction treatment centers and counseling centers don't work. That is a revolving door system. As if these people work at these facilities and center really work hard to put them selves in the unemployment lines. They are never investigated, it's blind trust game.

Now we got Obama who want puts the big growing number of 35 million criminals on Medicaid at the taxpayer's expense. With some crazy notion, that they will voluntarily go to doctors and get SELF-HELP and get all their little illnesses physically and mentally fixed. Yea, right.

They all have Doctors NOW. The same Doctors that shore up their excuses to get out of being convicted when ....

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WatchDog

Mar-13-14 4:44 PM

"And as a nation what are we doing to resolve these issues ?

Easy ! NOTHING"

Ladybug, honest question. What would you like to see done to stop all this? I am not going to hold you to answering that if you don’t want too.

Putting them in prison hotel Hiltons doesn't work.

Court system doesn't work.

The bleeding hearts have taken over.

Nobody wants any stinking cops.

Slapping, well it used to be slapping and now it is down to patting and sympathy, on the wrist doesn't work and just creates repeat offenders...

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ladybug

Mar-13-14 9:24 AM

And it costs a lot of moola to provide these people with attorneys ,incarceration costs "$60 to 100/day. Healthcare while in jail

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ladybug

Mar-13-14 9:20 AM

And as a nation what are we doing to resolve these issues ?

Easy ! NOTHING

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JamesAustin

Mar-12-14 9:47 PM

Judge Pike hate to agree with this. It was wrong. That doesn't look good on his part. We all don't have a judge as friends.

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JamesAustin

Mar-12-14 9:46 PM

"We need to find away to solve these problems."

Would appear so lady and the problem is our economy. So many people are turning to crime and that makes what watchdog is saying right. Seems like nothing is deterring them from committing the crime. They don't even fear going to prison. This is whacked out. They get a light sentence for prison they get out and do it again and again. It costs a lot of moola to keep running these cons through the courts systems over and over and I am like watchdog on this we can't afford this anymore.

What about the victims they are leaving behind. That financial hurtin is never considered in any of this.

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WatchDog

Mar-12-14 6:43 PM

Both systems slapping this guy on the wrist. Who is he? You can bet there is a lot being withheld. This is what causes distrust in the justice system. And why people scream CORRUPTION.

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WatchDog

Mar-12-14 6:39 PM

"Pretty bold statement calling a judge unethical !!!!"

Long over due, needs to be said. Ladybug, read up on how and why judges can not let this type of emotions bias his decisions. It is against the LAW. He is violating set standards by the STATE BAR ASSOCIATION.

Ladybug what this judge just did was open up the door for any criminal who goes before him to lodge that complaint that he is not bias by the law. It was the most STUPID thing this Judge could have done. He is a nice guy, no doubt about it. But he screwed up. Do you want to know that if you ever have to go before him and he DOESN'T know your family that YOU will face the full penalty of the law? That was the stupidest thing he could have ever done. It was WRONG.

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WatchDog

Mar-12-14 6:29 PM

I heard stories that the warden of this jail freaks out all the time if number of inmates count isn't high enough. That is because of the wheel and deal Halleck has played with the private organization. MONEY PER HEAD. It is a joke system.

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WatchDog

Mar-12-14 6:26 PM

The system is like a conveyor belt. Half of these criminals they are smarter than the judge. They KNOW HOW to work the judge and the system. This guy that pulled this stunt was BRILLIANT. He knows how to sell it to get away with it. I don't know why this court system just doesn't hand out pamphlets on how to beat the system and get it over with.

There is not punishment in these prisons. They are playing this education game. It doesn't work. When you have inmates that actually beggint to be sent out of these county jails to the big house, that tells you everything.

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WatchDog

Mar-12-14 6:18 PM

It's over crowded questioner because there are people sitting in jail waiting for the court dates. The court system is the PROBLEM. When you have judges like this one, playing the we can't put them all in a jail, so they slap them on wrist and then these repeat offenders get busted again and the game starts all over again. The warrant system is a joke at this court house. They had people in jail and after they get out of jail they serve the warrant instead of serving the warrant when they have them in custody. It is a joke. Our poor cops are pulling their hair out keeping up with all of this.

Job security in the court system. The community gets screwed.

But that is what happens when you have a court system that is trying to control all three branches of the criminal justice system. Just another day in this county. Get out your check book.

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questioner

Mar-12-14 2:56 PM

I know. I was just told this week by someone who visited Lisbon's jail that it was way overcrowded. Lisbon.

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ladybug

Mar-12-14 1:56 PM

We need to find away to solve these problems.

We can't just keep building jails.

We have more people behind bars than any other nation.

Think about how much it cost/day/yr x's 3 million people

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questioner

Mar-12-14 1:38 PM

While we don't have the details, I found it interesting that if he doesn't complete the program he'd go to jail for 6 years in Mahoning Co. He must have been guilty of quite a bit more there. That, coupled with his "extensive record"--I guess I'm surprised Mahoning Co let those offenses go for counseling. As Pike said, "someone in Mahoning County decided they wanted to give him a chance for whatever reason."

I hope that was the case.

Even if so, I'm surprised/disappointed at that. How many articles have we read this year where someone committed a "big" crime and we read of their earlier "extensive record" without much punishment.

For the sake of our communities, we better hope his counseling sessions turn him around.

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ladybug

Mar-12-14 1:03 PM

Our jail systems are so overcrowded now there letting lifers in Ca. out.

Time to put the real bad guys away and find other forms of punishment for the rest..

Hell there's people serving 15 to 20 years for just having small amounts of mari.

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ladybug

Mar-12-14 12:58 PM

Pretty bold statement calling a judge unethical !!!!

What should the guy get . 20years ?

Don't you think it might be cheaper to try and reform the man ,rather than fill up our jails somemore.

If he screws up he goes to jail!

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WatchDog

Mar-11-14 3:02 PM

Guess I have seen it all now. No secret Judges under the table help out people they know, but have never seen one ANNOUNCE IT PUBLICLY.

So tell me something Judge Pike? Do you always take into consideration those friendships in making your decisions that should be based on the law you are to interpret and uphold?

How dare you embarrass this community with your unethical behavior? I don't care how or what those two opposing attorney's think. YOU have an obligation to the public to uphold the laws.

Step down.

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