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Is Salem a more dangerous place to live in or visit now than in past years?

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GrantMingus

Jan-31-13 9:32 AM

The answer is no. You're living in an alternate universe if you think otherwise. Or you're a racist and I'm not one to throw that claim around much. Salem is a very safe town.

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rpmwwe

Jan-31-13 1:00 PM

Personal safety has more to do with lifestyle choices and the types of persons with which one associates rather than the location in which one lives. Of course, there are exceptions but they are just that, exceptions, not the rule.

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rpmwwe

Jan-31-13 1:05 PM

notSocialist, from the looks of all those disagreeing with you it appears that your choice of weaponry isn't what they would pick. I wonder what they carry.

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sdbrms

Jan-31-13 1:36 PM

Grant: You don't get out to Centennial park much do you?

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GrantMingus

Jan-31-13 1:59 PM

What is going on in Centennial Park? I guess I've missed all of the headlines of rape, murder and meth labs in the swings.

If you feel unsafe, do something to change that. Or you could move, don't let the door hit you...

There is nothing more dangerous now than there was 10, 20, 30 years ago. The same dangers still exist, the same major crimes rarely happen. Provide more of an argument than a bunch of kids standing in groups in the park if you want to start stirring fear. Until then, you're making it all up in your own head.

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GrantMingus

Jan-31-13 4:39 PM

Well, seeing how Salem is no more dangerous than past years, one can only assume that someone who thinks otherwise would attribute at least part of it to an increase in the Hispanic population. I'm not saying there is a correlation, but simply that in other places, that is something commonly blamed for increases in crime. And again, since the city is no more dangerous, thinking that would make you a racist.

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WyomingGirl

Jan-31-13 4:55 PM

Saga AK-74 25 round magazine.

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Kozy62

Jan-31-13 5:32 PM

I'm not certain this can be answered well. In the 50s & 60s, there were bad people but I can't remember soccer let alone a coach who had moved to town with a serious rap sheet...then again, did he do anything bad in Salem?

We spent more time outside playing football, baseball, riding bikes, going to high school games, etc...no time to mess with drugs. I think that all changed with Vietnam,

So, my guess is that if you look before Vietnam, it's not as safe...after Vietnam' it's probably about the same.

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Kozy62

Feb-01-13 7:35 PM

It' funny but the three that disagreed are probably not old enough to have lived in the 50s...but I respect their opinion.

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WatchDog

Feb-01-13 11:31 PM

Dangerous? Define dangerous.

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WatchDog

Feb-02-13 12:29 AM

GrantMingus, seriously, out of curiosity did YOU even understand a word you wrote?

Let me see if I understand your theory. If I think that Salem is less safer today than it was 30 years ago that would make me a racist? Because YOU believe I am secretly blaming the unsafe conditions of Salem on the Hispanic growth in Salem? Then you claim that because I have that fear and feel Salem is unsafe, I should do something about it or move? Does that about cover it? So in having said all that you claim Salem is a safe place to live and I am just making it all up in my own head.

Hmmm...okay Salem Pd the next time 911 rings...tell the caller it's all in their heads and they need to move!!!

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GrantMingus

Feb-02-13 5:08 PM

Oh the irony of you asking if I understand what I wrote.

Believing that Salem is more dangerous place does not make you a racist. If that doesn't tie into it, then you just aren't living in reality. I stated that pretty clearly, the word "or" is not a synonym for "and". You can argue against what I said about people blaming an increase in the ethnic populations in many other places in this country but you'll be wrong the entire time you're arguing.

Why must you speak in such ridiculous extremes? It only cements my belief that you are in fact making it up in your own head. Because the police are called means it's dangerous? I'm pretty sure the police have been handling phone calls since the invention of the telephone.

Again, I said you could do something about feeling unsafe--get your CCW, give yourself some peace of mind. Whatever. OR you could move if you think the grass is greener.

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GrantMingus

Feb-02-13 5:13 PM

The bottom line is, you haven't made even the slightest case for Salem being a more dangerous place.

And shame on you notsocialist. You're the worst kind of political pundit. I say one thing you disagree with and that must mean I'm a democrat. Open your brain for once in your life.

As far as the Civil Rights Act is concerned, Dem's were not trying to keep blacks in chains. The Civil Rights Act is forced segregation. It is not freedom. It is not equality. It is a shameful piece of legislation--it is NOT what MLK marched for. "Separate but equal", ring a bell? You don't even have a clue what you're talking about you're just regurgitating whatever extreme right talking head you're listening to. There are memebers of your esteemed (and dead) Republican party who would have voted against the Civil Rights Act. I'm sure you probably even go as far as to call yourself a Tea Partier.

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GrantMingus

Feb-02-13 5:14 PM

You throw yourself at a movement and claim to be a part of it without even understanding the ideology.

If you think I'm a Democrat you're doing nothing but making yourself and your party look stupid. So quick to throw around generalities when someone stands on a different piece of the carpet than you.

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WatchDog

Feb-02-13 6:05 PM

GrantMigus did you miss this genius?

Feb-01-13 11:31 PM

Dangerous? Define dangerous.

First, lose the party affiliation and the rest of that crap you threw out there. Why must you speak in such ridiculous extremes? I wasn't asking you if that was your a theory. All you had to do was say NO and explain it and spare us the pathetic rhetoric that came with it where you tried to bail out of your misspeak that notSocialist nailed you on.

Seriously, grow a brain. The poll question stunk. Wrong word was used and only a few grasped that even you. Definition of dangerous and definition of safe makes a whole new picture being painted.

Almost every comment you used made reference to the word SAFE. NO Salem is not more dangerous than what is was 30 years ago. We don't have, gangs standing on corners having a shoot oust over drugs....yet! I say that loosely because if we don't take hold of this crime and drugs growing in this city that could be a reality down the line.

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WatchDog

Feb-02-13 6:12 PM

The saddest part of all this and you can't even see past the end of your blind nose. If you have been a victim to a crime in Salem, regardless of that crime, you are not going to believe Salem is safer than it was 30 years ago.

Salem is not safer. You are a fool to believe it. We are traveling along with the every new crime wave coming to play that has been happening over the last 30 years. More and more is exposed because of the fight against it and the technology used to fight it. That is a FACT.

By the GrantMingus...you go find the little boy that was nearly beaten to death left laying next to his grandmother's murdered body on 45 and tell him your theory...that Salem is safer than it was 30 years ago. Ask that little boy his opinon because frankly...your opinion s.ucks!

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WatchDog

Feb-02-13 6:24 PM

Therefore DANGEROUS is being contained. Safer is losing the battle. Get awake.

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Louigi

Feb-02-13 6:43 PM

GrantMingus, if you will read the 1964 Civil Rights Act, you may come to realize that it is you that doesn't have a clue!Just read it and the history of how it was finally passed, very revealing.

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Louigi

Feb-02-13 6:49 PM

I was young, but if I remember correctly 'Separate but Equal' was something the segregationist believed in.

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Louigi

Feb-02-13 7:00 PM

As to the question,I'd have to see some statistics,but I don't see it as any more dangerous.

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Phoenix

Feb-02-13 7:29 PM

GrantMingus, " The Civil Rights Act is forced segregation." What? Oh and notSocialist, it was the southern democrats, Dixiecrats, who filibustered it, not the mainstream Democratic Party.

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Phoenix

Feb-02-13 7:31 PM

I happen to know a lot of these former Dixiecrats, they call themselves Republicans now.

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Louigi

Feb-02-13 8:02 PM

It's been 30 years, but I was once stationed in the south. Bigots were out in the open and proud of it, actually sort nice. I always knew exactly who the morons were. In the military I new a lot of bigots, but many, after being forced to bunk beside, eat meals, and work closely with those of another race, had their eyes opened. They've reformed. The thing that irks me the most about living in this part of the country, the bigots are generally still in hiding. If you pay attention, they eventually reveal themselves.

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Phoenix

Feb-03-13 9:51 AM

Louigi, I've lived in the south for well over 30 years and you're right there was more overt racism back then, but fortunately, thanks to integration, times have changed. I live in such a diverse and multicultural invironment now that I can't imagine anything different. I'm not suggesting racism is dead, we have a long way to go on that front, just that the south is far different then you remember it. As far as Salem being a more dangerous place to live in or visit, I can't speak for those of you who live there, but I haven't noticed a change when I'm fortunate enough to visit family.

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GrantMingus

Feb-03-13 10:26 AM

LOL, the lame attacks on me are hilarious. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you fools anymore. But the debate is over unless we do have numbers:

"This whole debate can be ended quickly and accurately. For someone who is really interested, get the per capita stats from last year, 10 and 20 years ago. If the numbers are higher now, it's more dangerous."

You've just admitted that the entire notion that you've perpetuate since the conversation began is based on nothing but what you think is going on in your own head. Because you have no factual base to make your claim.

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