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Does the rationale of the feds using secret cyber data mining for national security's sake take precedence over an individual's privacy rights?

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Kozy62

Jun-08-13 6:10 AM

What' happening is an over reach. I'm all for the federal government doing their constitutional job to protect us but it's gone in the wrong direction, and way beyond it's intended scope...

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 6:39 AM

No, it doesn't take precedence. It's an invasion of privacy.

I wonder what tomorrow's Obama Administration's will be.

Anyone who gives up their rights (those that are OK with this) for 'security' deserves neither.

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 6:47 AM

HEADLINE: Justice Department Fights Release of Secret Court Opinion Finding Unconstitutional Surveillance

"In the midst of revelations that the government has conducted extensive top-secret surveillance operations to collect domestic phone records and internet communications, the Justice Department was due to file a court motion Friday in its effort to keep secret an 86-page court opinion that determined that the government had violated the spirit of federal surveillance laws and engaged in unconstitutional spying."

full story: motherjones.c om/politics/2013/06/justice-department-electronic-frontier-foundation-fisa-court-opinion

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 6:49 AM

HEADLINE: U.S., British intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

"The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio and video chats, photographs, e-mails, documents, and connection logs that enable analysts to track foreign targets, according to a top-secret document obtained by The Washington Post.

The program, code-named PRISM, has not been made public until now. It may be the first of its kind. The NSA prides itself on stealing secrets and breaking codes, and it is accustomed to corporate partnerships that help it divert data traffic or sidestep barriers. But there has never been a Google or Facebook before, and it is unlikely that there are richer troves of valuable intelligence than the ones in Silicon Valley."

washingtonpost.c om/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 6:53 AM

I was going to say all this illegal surveillance crap was a boon to the Post Office, with letters being more secure, but....

"JUNE 7--A high-tech computer system that captures images of “every mail piece that is processed” by the United State Postal Service was critical in helping federal agents track the Texas woman arrested today for allegedly sending ricin-tainted letters to President Barack Obama and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg."

thesmokinggun.c om/documents/woman-arrested-for-obama-bloomberg-ricin-letters-687435

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 6:55 AM

HEADLINE: Obama Calls Reports On U.S. Government Surveillance ‘Hype’

What do you expect from someone who uses the Constitution as toilet paper?

video: freebeacon.c om/obama-calls-reports-on-us-government-surveillance-hype/

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 6:57 AM

HEADLINE: Progressives, Democrats must stand with New York Times against Obama on NSA phone records collection

"The events of the past month – from the Associated Press subpoena to the James Rosen search warrant to the revelation that our government has been indiscriminately collecting phone records data – have forced liberals to make a choice between complacency and outrage, between keeping silent because one of our own is in the White House and calling him out on betraying the principles for which we have fought for so long."

Full story: foxnews.c om/opinion/2013/06/07/progressives-must-stand-with-new-york-times-against-obama/

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 7:15 AM

HEADLINR: Obama's Civil-Liberties Record Questioned

"The disclosure of a broad government effort to collect phone records of millions of U.S. consumers has rekindled a debate about President Barack Obama's commitment to civil liberties, with some lawmakers and advocacy groups saying he has broken a campaign pledge to combat terrorism in ways that protect basic freedoms."

full story: online.wsj.c om/article/SB10001424127887324069104578529671066598106.h tml?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 9:41 AM

I see the freedom-hating Obamabots are out in force already.

Say, why don't you all move to Cuba? It's already a Communist country, so you don't have to ruin ours.

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OSU600

Jun-08-13 9:51 AM

This is a huge invasion of privacy and needs to be stopped immediately. Having said that, I'm sure those who are just as outraged felt the same way about this program when it was started under President Bush, correct?

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notSocialist

Jun-08-13 9:53 AM

"WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's administration is likely to open a criminal investigation into the leaking of highly classified documents that revealed the secret surveillance of Americans' telephone and email traffic, U.S. officials said on Friday.

The law enforcement and security officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly, said the agencies that normally conduct such investigations, including the FBI and Justice Department, were expecting a probe into the leaks to a British and an American newspaper."

Typical of this corrupt Administration. Go after the whistle-blowers instead of those violating the Fourth Amendment.

newsmax.c om/Headline/obama-administration-nsa-leaks/2013/06/07/id/508762

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OSU600

Jun-08-13 11:12 AM

Who are you trying to be, Matt Drudge? If we want to read conservative links we'd go to his site instead of having you go off topic on all these polls with your hatred of everything Obama. We get it. You don't like him.

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Beaumont

Jun-08-13 12:01 PM

He can't even stand himself! I bet the navy was so glad to see him go! There is a cost to freedom, know my phone number nothing to hide on this end.

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notSocialist

Jun-09-13 5:27 AM

What are you babbling about?

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notSocialist

Jun-09-13 5:31 AM

"If we want to read conservative links we'd go to his site instead of having you go off topic on all these polls with your hatred of everything Obama."

I don't hate the man, I hate his socialist policies. Want to call me a racist next?

Topic: data mining and privacy invasion. All my posts: data mining and privacy invasion.

What's the problem?

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notSocialist

Jun-09-13 5:32 AM

" If we want to read conservative links..."

This is a conservative paper.

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notSocialist

Jun-09-13 5:34 AM

"There is a cost to freedom, "

Of course, but that cost shouldn't unConstitutional surveillance of EVERY American. I don't know about you, but I am not and have never been in communication with terrorists.

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notSocialist

Jun-09-13 5:36 AM

"I'm sure those who are just as outraged felt the same way about this program when it was started under President Bush,"

Nice try. Bush's program tracked FOREIGN calls, Obama tracks ALL American calls. And internet traffic. And email.

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Phoenix

Jun-09-13 7:56 AM

The New York Times, Dec. 16, 2005, "15 months after the Sep. 11 attacks, President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the U.S. to search for evidence of terrorist activity without court warrants". The Bush Administrations warrantless wiretap program, doesn't that ring a bell, it was big news at the time, or did you suddenly develope amnesia?

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Beaumont

Jun-09-13 8:57 AM

"The New York Times" Yes how soon they forget when his dad was VP who knows what they did. All presidents do things that we don't know of tell later. And the next president will do the same.

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Beaumont

Jun-09-13 8:57 AM

"The New York Times" Yes how soon they forget when his dad was VP who knows what they did. All presidents do things that we don't know of tell later. And the next president will do the same.

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OSU600

Jun-09-13 10:23 AM

"Topic: data mining and privacy invasion. All my posts: data mining and privacy invasion.

What's the problem?"

Your kidding right? Just yesterday, the question was about taxing online poker and you used it as an occasion to go on an anti Obama rant about guns. You regularly hijack topics so you can feel good about yourself. Not calling you racist, just a one trick pony (and a tiring one)

Nice job Phoenix. How soon (or conveniently) they forget.

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WatchDog

Jun-09-13 10:26 AM

...individual's privacy right?

What exactly is that? LOL

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rpmwwe

Jun-09-13 12:43 PM

I was listening to a replay of a rant Obama went on back when Bush was pushing the Patriot Act. I believe he stated that "there is no excuse" for such action. I suppose we just blame this current issue on Bush since he started it, right? While we're at it, we should also blame Bush for the current state of warfare in the middle east, the current issue of Fast & Furious, and so on, because the Obama administration is apparently nothing more than an extension of the Bush administration. Hope and Change? Forward?

The leadership of the Obama administration isn't unraveling.....its unraveled. Game Over.

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Phoenix

Jun-09-13 3:20 PM

President Obama was not in the Senate when the Patriot Act was first passed in 2001, he did not take office till 2005 and voted for its reauthorization in 2006.

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