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Kozy62

Aug-19-13 7:18 AM

So...does Obama and his team have the ability to do anything about this? Is America now a "nothing" in the world?

U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel repeatedly phoned Egyptian General Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi urging a peaceful transition — Sisi refused. President Obama has repeatedly called on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to leave – he’s still there. Obama said he wanted the Bahraini monarchy to reform – it hasn’t. Countless American officials have pushed Afghan President Hamid Karzai to get his act together – he hasn’t. Obama even apologized.

What’s going on? Is the problem one of inherent limits to American power in today’s world? Or the Obama administration misplaying the power it has?

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Kozy62

Aug-19-13 7:04 AM

And, there are much bigger problems of course and one that isn't so easily solved...FOOD! More accurately, fertilizer. Almost all of the chemicals and fertilizers that are used in the entire world are oil based. In order to feed the worlds population we have to use vast amounts of nitrates, trace elements and chemicals to produce the huge amounts of grains and vegetables we currently do. India for instance uses 51% of it's oil in fertilizer production not fuel. Without it, India would be subject to famine.

Before humans worked out how to produce chemical fertilizers we used whatever nature gave us and of course the primary source of nitrates was guano from South America - a very limited supply. Of course there were regular famines across the world including the so called first world areas of Europe. With oil we have avoided this problem and incrementally improved crop yields in line with population.

Is that what the middle east upheaval causes...starvation?

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Kozy62

Aug-19-13 6:51 AM

After last week’s bloody crackdown by the Egyptian army, fears of a disruption of oil supplies to the West have boosted the oil price. Brent crude prices were propelled to a four-month high of $111.23 on Thursday. If the turmoil gets worse – or unrest spreads to other countries – the risk premium currently factored into the price of crude is likely to increase further.

Egypt is not a major energy exporter, producing a nominal amount of the world’s oil and gas. The North African country appears at number 54 on the list of the world’s largest oil exporters, producing about 0.9pc of the world’s oil and 1.8pc of global natural gas supply.

However, Egypt plays a vital role in international energy markets through the operation of the Suez Canal and the Suez-Mediterranean (Sumed) pipeline. These are vital pieces of infrastructure in the global oil market.

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Kozy62

Aug-19-13 6:47 AM

Headlines...The Telegraph, August 19,2013:

Commodities: Egyptian bloodbath threatens crucial routes for oil and gas supplies. Egypt is a key bottleneck in the global oil industry. Should the current turmoil in the North African country get any worse, a potential oil spike could damage any nascent economic recovery.

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Kozy62

Aug-18-13 7:24 AM

And, why are the 10% hated so much?

The Maspero Youth Union, a Coptic Christian youth movement, says there’s a "retaliation war" against the religious minority, which makes up around 10 percent of Egypt's population, according to a report by AFP.

The Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights (EIPR), an Egyptian NGO, says at least 25 churches were torched this week, and attackers also targeted Christian schools, shops and homes across all 27 provinces.

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Kozy62

Aug-18-13 7:16 AM

Obama has no grand geopolitical conception. He and his top officials are not great European-style improvisers like Kissinger. They don't have a plan for America, like Holbrooke had, to be a great moral force while promoting its geopolitical interests at the same time. In sum, Obama offers only a negative: I am not George W. Bush. He started wars. I will end them, and avoid future ones. I will kill individual terrorists as they crop up. That's all, thank you.

You see the problem. It is not enough to communicate what you won't do; in foreign policy you have to provide a sense of mission, however nuanced or modest that mission may be. A mission or a conception provides direction. A direction, in turn, connects your actions in each geographical area of the world. With Obama nothing seems to be tied together...unless you see the killings. Maybe that's the plan?

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Kozy62

Aug-18-13 6:20 AM

And, from the Jerusalem Post while our attention is on Egypt...

"Iran says it has 18,000 nuclear centrifuges..."

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Kozy62

Aug-18-13 6:07 AM

Egypt’s presidency said on Friday that U.S. President Obama’s remarks on Egypt are not based on “facts” and will strengthen and encourage violent groups.

Egypt is facing “acts of terrorism that target government institutions and vital facilities, including churches, courts and police stations and public and private institutions,” the presidency added in a statement.

“Groups of armed violence targeted the loss of lives and the features of the Egyptian civilization, including libraries, museums and public gardens,” the presidency said.

“The presidency fears that statements not based on facts (lies) will strengthen and groups of armed violence and encourage them in their anti-democratic and stability path,” the statement added.

And, haven't we said that our President doesn't tell the truth? Now...he's helping to cause a civil war!

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Kozy62

Aug-17-13 4:48 PM

Beaumont Aug-17-13 12:53PM: "No Joe never been, I know what it is about, that's why I have never been. As americans they have a right to march don't they? Don't need a bumper sticker to know I love my wife."

Promise Keepers is not a march...they have a right...me neither. And, no matter whether we agree or not...still my friend, Bob. And you have a lovely wife...me too.

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questioner

Aug-17-13 1:41 PM

They have a right to march. Guy in FL has a right to burn the Koran. But (on 9/11 especially) wisdom is the better part of valor. Unless they don't care about/want repercussions (like the guy in FL).

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Beaumont

Aug-17-13 12:53 PM

No Joe never been, I know what it is about, that's why I have never been. As americans they have a right to march don't they? Don't need a bumper sticker to know I love my wife.

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Kozy62

Aug-17-13 12:52 PM

concerned Aug-16-13 1:49PM:

...If I did not believe Romans 13:1 "For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." I think I would lose my mind. I take great comfort in knowing that what ever happens that almighty God is still on the throne and in the end his will is what will be done.

Very wise on any subject, concerned. Stay strong no matter what evil is said or done...God is greater!!!

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Kozy62

Aug-17-13 12:44 PM

Beaumont Aug-17-13 9:37AM: "And, it's being thrown in our faces with a million man muslim march on 9/11." Is this like Promise Keepers?"

Ever been to a Promise Keepers, Bob?

Are the men who have been to a Promise Keepers rally muslims?

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questioner

Aug-17-13 11:49 AM

Pick up a copy of the book "Persecuted". A quote: "Christians are the world's most widely persecuted religious group in the world today." This info comes from the 'Economist', 'Commentary', 'Newsweek', Open Doors, Pew Research Center (and not Fox News). One estimate from Europe: "75% of acts of religious intolerance are directed against Christians."

Disagree if you will, but you'll show your ignorance, as these are FACTS. (Or maybe you're just showing religious intolerance towards Christians.)

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ladybug

Aug-17-13 9:53 AM

Send'm more money.

Buy everyone's friendship,so they shot us in the later,

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questioner

Aug-17-13 9:43 AM

Did anyone catch the local news reports with an area doctor who has a brother still in Egypt? He said the Muslim Brotherhood has also destroyed 300 Christian churches in Egypt, using this uprising as a cover-up. We hear very little about the persecution and killings of Christians by Muslims.

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Beaumont

Aug-17-13 9:37 AM

"And, it's being thrown in our faces with a million man muslim march on 9/11." Is this like Promise Keepers?

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ladybug

Aug-17-13 9:16 AM

I'm scared !

Should be !

Cause the only thing the other 535 reps. in Washington care about is 2016

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ladybug

Aug-17-13 9:12 AM

Send J.McCain and L.Graham over ,Their good at sticking their noses in everything but their own responsibilities.

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ladybug

Aug-17-13 9:10 AM

Snif ! Boo-hoo

GOP : boycotts CNN NBC

Is this all you people are good at ? Complaining !

Where would you like your pacifier sent ?

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notSocialist

Aug-17-13 5:25 AM

Yup, probably civil war.

Hey, Obama, how's that Muslin Spring working out for you?

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Kozy62

Aug-17-13 3:10 AM

Sorry..****puter keeps leaving out letters.

Should read: In a little more than four years, our country has gone from the powerhouse of the world to the laughing stock...

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Kozy62

Aug-17-13 3:06 AM

Don't know but it certainly shows how little this administration can do. I a little more than four years our country has one from the powerhouse of the world to the laughing stock...and I should scar us all!

And, it's being thrown in our faces with a million man muslim march on 9/11.

And, rpmwwe...Obama would be very happy if gas prices moved to $10 a gallon.

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rpmwwe

Aug-17-13 2:07 AM

What's this? There's talk of civil war in Egypt and the price of gasoline hasn't jumped up to $4.00 / gallon yet? Someone's asleep at the switch.

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