35, if served, may be ok but I read he will be eligible for parole in just 8 additional years...that's not much for what he did.
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Well I don't know !
Some are trying to make a hero out of him. Kind of like robbing a bank and saying he did it for the good of the community.
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The people who should be in jail for the war crimes that he exposed have gotten off too easy.
No, "Manning still faces the prospect of years, if not decades, behind bars. He was found guilty on 20 counts. The sentencing phase of the court-martial begins Wednesday, and Manning faces up to a maximum 136 years in prison.
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I love that someone disagrees with the idea that people who are guilty of war crimes in THEIR NAME, propagated using THEIR tax dollars shouldn't be in jail. Whoever that is, you're a subhuman piece of garbage who supports the killing of innocent people, women and children among them.
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I couldn't answer the poll. Undecided and here's why. 35 years seems incredibly harsh as punishment for a crime that involved no violence and no personal enrichment. Just the sending of some electronic data to someone.
At the same time, it seems appropriate for betraying your country and indiscriminately exposing thousands of diplomats and informers, many of whom had done nothing wrong or criminal.
And then there is this to consider. He endangered many men and women of our military in this stunt to get the big boys...therefore should we have respect for him or*****him?
That's also what makes Manning different from Snowden: The latter selectively informs the world about severe abuses of power by governments. Manning just stole everything he could find and gave it away, the reports of abuse and war crimes together with many legitimate government secrets. If he'd responsibly selected what he leaks, I'd consider him a hero like Snowden, but now he's just a traitor.
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And there is this to consider....
"I, Bradley Manning, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
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Is Jane Fonda a hero? She get's to play a First Lady. 35 years with time off for good behavior, I don't think the military has parole, I could be wrong.
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WatchDog, that is our answer! The code of conduct.
Beaumont just our curiosity? If Obama ordered you to kill your wife and family would that code of conduct mean the same to you?
Sry, don't want to put you on the spot. But maybe now you understand that the very same enemy could be the President. I don't know, I think our country is in serious trouble.
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Politics are eating this country alive!
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"Beaumont just our curiosity? If Obama ordered you to kill your wife and family would that code of conduct mean the same to you?" The code of conduct means nothing to me now at one for six years it did. That was a very funny question for you to ask someone.
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Why is it funny? Because you couldn't answer it? Because in those six years you served it would have been unthinkable of such an order?
What if the President is evil? Would you honor that same code of conduct?
Maybe in some sense Manning did. In his eyes, he did the right thing by what he did.
The point is this. Especially in this day and age. That oath has taken on whole new meaning wouldn't you agree?
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I think the point Watchdog was trying to make is: would there be a limit on obeying what the president ordered. If there is no limit then I think we are all in trouble with one man (not just Obama but any president) having so much authority that he could tell someone to do something and they had to obey it just because the President told them to do it. I find that thought alarming.
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We don't have a Government we can trust. Can the men and women of our military trust them? Should they?
Going to say it again. Our country is in trouble.
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Exactly concerned. The point is very clear in America. This is not a nation of progress, this is a nation of power and that is why our Government needs to be controlled. Politics are eating this country alive.
Now 2 people who support the killing of innocent people with bullets bought with their tax dollars.
Point to ponder. What about Benghazi? There was a military troop one mile from there. Ordered to stand down by the President of the United States.
What if they disobeyed that code of conduct? 4 men would be alive today and possibly exposing why Obama stopped them and why.
We forget so many other sides of the story. Don't we?
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Make it three Grant. There is no such thing as a perfect war. Innocent people will die to save the greater good. That is just a fact. Ugly fact, but is the truth.
A disagree really. There is someone out there that thinks that just because someone took an oath that they are obligated to do what ever a president tells them to do. The presidency is not suppose to be a dictatorship. That is too much power for one man to have.
"A disagree really."
LOL, are you really that surprised concerned? Like I said, politics are killing this country. This stopped being about right and wrong a long time ago. Politics and P O W E R has this country divided. There are those that believe Obama is a GOD and could commit murder right in front of their eyes and they still would love him. Before I get into trouble...there are those that felt the same about President Bush.
Right and wrong is GONE. That is why you got a disagree. The politics and the power is eating this country alive!
I don't know whose punching the button or could care less.
This about a pact and oath to protect the American people.
You don't hand out information for the whole world to see.Especially if it contains information that could affect out security.. You don't run off to China and then to Russia with god who knows what.
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Your right watchdog,
This country is going to*****and a hand basket.
Boths sides are guilty and the American people better wake up before it's too late to reverse
You're a disgusting human being and I hope to God I don't know you outside of your WatchDog persona.
A whole lot of people who want to attack Bradley Manning and don't have a clue about hardly any of the contents of what he exposed. You all want answers on Benghazi, retribution for 9/11, yet you CONSCIOUSLY participate in the kind of activity that creates the blowback that causes these things. And you're willing to go in the never ending cycle of creating that blowback for your own selfish revenge rather than *GASP* questioning whether the foreign policy that you've been conditioned to believe in over decades and decades actually helps humanity or not.
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And my original comment that lead to people disagreeing had nothing to do with Bradley Manning's sentence. It had nothing to do with supporting Bradley Manning. But if you think he should be behind bars, then how in God's name can you disagree with the idea that the people who committed and ordered the committing of war crimes shouldn't pay the price? We're not talking about collateral damage here. If you think we are, then you simply have no idea what Bradley Manning really exposed, in which case you should recuse yourself from this conversation until you inform yourself.
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