At least when this thing completely implodes, National Healthcare will never be mentioned again! Watching this whole thing unfold is better than the World Series and the Super Bowl all wrapped up in one:)
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Pass the popcorn...
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Who cares .
Just more coming out of tax payer pockets either way.
The more people without insurance,The more my premiums,co-pays ,deuctibles and out of pocket increses,
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ladybug...you are correct only because both democrats and republicans are giving our taxes away to those who are choosing not to have insutance...much like the person who decides not to buy gasoline for his car and runs out. If another person always helps him by filling his car up, he will eventually decide to just not buy gas again. If on the otherhand, he has to walk some great distance to buy some gas...he will not run out again.
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So, if those in Washington had no political reason to pay (with our money) for people's bad choices...there would be only the problem with those who are truely unable to work and/or handicapped. I have no way of proving how many dollars that would save but have to believe it would be huge...plus, people would lean again what it's like to be responsible.
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I'm glad it's so simple to some people.
We have 50 to 60 million without insurance because most of them can't afford the basics.
Little lone $ 10000 to 12000/yr for insurance coverage.
I see people everyday who are like you said to lazy to work .while I see many working at low paying jobs just trying to survive.
Like I said : Who Cares !!!
Let the whole*****country implode
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Salem for example was full of good paying jobs at one time.
Most have been replaced by $ 8 to 10/hr jobs.
The yearly avg wage at walmart is $18100.
50 % of salems school children live at poverty wages, The avg yearly wade in this area is around $30000.
We now have a food pantry and 2 area places serving food once a week to the poor,
This area now has a summer program where school kids can go get a lunch during the summer.
This is real progress /A reason to stand up a be pround of our country .
While the petty babies in Washington fight over every*****thing,
I can't vote for that .I might loose a vote
' WHO CARES "
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Any country so GD stupid to give companies a tax break to move overseas or to lazy to work on tax reform to get these same companies to invest and hire here needs to sink
If the voter ever wakes up ,which they won't it will never change.
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"Any country so GD stupid to give companies a tax break to move overseas or to lazy to work on tax reform to get these same companies to invest and hire here needs to sink"
I agree, bug. The federal and many state governments have become so big, complex, and bloated that there is no efficiency or accountability. If there is no efficiency, then it will consume more and more with little or no change to output. If there is no accountability, then who is responsible for implementing needed changes? It can't be fixed with what we have to work with.
Bug Says- Salem for example was full of good paying jobs at one time. Most have been replaced by $ 8 to 10/hr jobs.
I didn't leave Salem 25 years ago for that reason, but looking back, perhaps it benifited me financially. Salem does seem stuck in quicksand. I've said this before, but as much as I love my home town, I'm afraid that one needs to leave Salem and go to the big cities or company friendly states to find decent jobs.
How could Barack Obama and his celebrated team of incredibly proficient, plugged in techies – the team that twice got him elected – be behind the utterly disastrous launch of the ObamaCare online storefront, healthcare.gov – arguably the biggest website failure in history? How could so much money have been spent to produce such a problem-plagued site that apparently was doomed in its developmental confusion? And how to fix this monumental mess, well, there doesn’t seem to be any clear plan…other than hope. And now we learn that many, if not most, of the people actually signing up for ObamaCare through the website are enrolling in Medicaid, not signing up for private insurance policies they pay for, but adding their names onto government rolls – a financial drain on the system, not contributing to it. And many, if not most of those who are enrolling in private plans are finding their insurance premiums, deductibles and co-pays unaffordably high.
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But, ladybug, you have implied that you voted for or at least back those who are opposed to American free enterprise and energy independence...big government, with high taxes...huge anti business regulations...and no accountability when it comes to representation.
You have also called certain representatives names for doing what they were elected to do.
Why then are you so upset with the majority of those in Washington (both parties)? You actually want it that way.
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"Gee, where is our new troll?"
Probably already off to another town and another site to help spread the savior's message.
I signed up at healthcare.gov and I now have real numbers to share with you.
My current 2013 Health Insurance cost is: Month $689.08 Year $8268.96
My 2014 Health Insurance cost was going to be: Month $833.48 Year $10,001.76 That is a 20.9554% increase. That is not because of Obamacare. I have been hit with increases like this every year for the last 10 years.
My Affordable Healthcare Act cost will be: Month $498.70 Year $5984.40 That is a savings of 40.1665% over what Anthem Blue Cross was going to charge me in 2014. It is also quite a bit less than what they charged me this year. My deductible is the same but my office visits will cost less and my maximum out of pocket costs at $650 less a year. This is my payment without any government subsidies. This is what the actual quote is from Anthem Blue Cross. I am a very happy with Obamacare.
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Business World Oct.29
Democrats at least are consistent. Back in 1993, during the fight over HillaryCare, Mrs. Clinton explained Democratic reasoning to then-House GOP Leader Denny Hastert. If Americans are allowed too much discretion over how they spend their health-care dollars, Mrs. Clinton said, "We just think people will be too focused on saving money and they won't get the care for their children and themselves that they need . . .
"The money has to go to the federal government because the federal government will spend that money better."
Despite President Obama’s assurances to the contrary, millions of Americans are discovering that they will not be able to keep their current health insurance when the Affordable Care Act takes full effect next year.
Reports Tuesday from CBS and NBC News document this development. According to CBS, US insurance firms have sent health policy cancellation notices to more than 2 million people, with 800,000 in New Jersey alone.
NBC estimates that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million Americans who purchase their health insurance as individuals on the open market can expect a cancellation letter, as their policies don’t meet standards mandated by the ACA.
TripleD Oct-30-13 5:25AM: "My current 2013 Health Insurance cost is: Month $689.08 Year $8268.96
My 2014 Health Insurance cost was going to be: Month $833.48 Year $10,001.76 That is a 20.9554% increase. That is not because of Obamacare. I have been hit with increases like this every year for the last 10 years."
Have no idea what your actual premiums have been but if you do the math, you were paying very little for your insurance 10 yeas ago...not certain the math works, but I'm happy your happy.
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Georgia Rep. John Lewis on Tuesday compared Republican opposition to President Obama’s health-care law to racism.
The Democratic lawmaker made the comments comparing the Republican resistance to Obamacare to the opposition to civil rights in the the 1950s during a House Ways and Means Committee hearing with Marilyn Tavenner, the administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services...(continued)...
Referencing the numerous Republican attempts to repeal Obamacare over the last several years, Lewis said: “Just reminds me of another period in our history. Not so long ago during the 50s, many Southern senators signed a Southern Manifesto after the Supreme Court decision of 1954. And those senators — along with many Southern governors — subscribed to the doctrine of interposition and notification and some even massive resistance.”
“That’s what we saw on the part of the Republican members of the House and some of the Republicans in the Senate,” he said of GOP attempts to
“That’s what we saw on the part of the Republican members of the House and some of the Republicans in the Senate,” he said of GOP attempts to defund Obamacare.
Ironically, while Lewis used the Southern Manifesto — which was in opposition to integration — to attack Republicans, 97 of the 99 politicians who signed it in 1956 were Democrats.
There you have it. If you oppose Obamacare, you’re just like those racist Democrats who wanted segregation.
Exit question: I wonder, do they spout this nonsense because they’re evil and have no problem spreading lies about their political opponents or because they’re ignorant enough to actually believe it?
Kozy62, There were two or three years that after being given the quote for the next year, I increased the deductible to keep the rate basically the same. For at least the last 4 years I have been trapped at the maximum deductible and out of pocket that Anthem Blue Cross offers.
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As an interesting comparison, Bush lied about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and that Oil from Iraq would pay for the Iraq war. Of course those were only 'white lies'. :>)
notSocialist, (Benghazi) It is a lie to say the President lied about the Benghazi attack. (NSA) The President has not made any changes to the way the NSA operates. ('Red Line') Don't you really mean that he crossed your Red line by being black? (the sequester) I understood the sequester, the Democrats understood it and the Republican understood it. I am sorry you are confused about it. (Mitt Romney) Every single Republican lied about him that voted for him. Be Honest, None of you wanted him to be President. (Planned Parenthood) We all know the Republican position on sex, keep it dirty and out of sight. (ObamaKare) Now you are just repeating yourself. Why do you spell it with a 'K'?
You forgot to say how he was a muslim born in Kenya. While your at it print up another phony birth certificate. I always get a big kick out of those. :>)
notSocialist, You also forgot to mention the FEMA concentration camps that are being prepared as we speak. You have not said anything about how the President has sold the sovereignty of the United States to the United Nations. How about Obama's plan to fake an assassination attempt: A false-flag operation would create urban tumult and give Obama the pretext to declare martial law, thus suspending democracy, postponing the 2012 election, and prolonging his stay in office. Maybe you did not mention that one because it never happened.
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