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CAA braces for strike by CARTS workers

May 21, 2013

LISBON — The Community Action Agency took action Monday to prepare for a strike by Community Action Rural Transit System workers, the county’s public transportation service....

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concerned

May-24-13 8:03 PM

So what is your point Phoenix? Did the people that worked there, know up front, that there was no union when they took the job.? Were they under paid while they worked there? What would have been different had they had a union? Would having a union saved them from losing their job when the company decided to leave the country? Yes non union companies close too, but the point is: having a union is not going to prevent a company from closing up. In fact in some cases having a union may be a contributing factor to the reason a business closes down. Many factors go into the cause of a business closing down. I am not saying it is all unions fault but they can be part of the problem. In my case the teamsters did nothing for me but cause me to find other employment. Which in my case did not turn out to be a bad thing.

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Phoenix

May-24-13 5:16 PM

Concerned, I live in the Southeast where unions are practically non existent, my husband is an engineer, in the past thirty years he has lost his job a total of three times, once because the company went under, twice because the company decided to move their operations overseas. None of these companies were unionized. The company that went under was due to poor management, both companies that moved their operations overseas had been reporting record profits prior to their move. In all cases the workers walked away with very little while the managers and executives were well compensated, why, because they were under contract, protected, even the ones who made bad investments and caused the company to go under, basically they were all individually a union of one.

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Kozy62

May-24-13 4:55 PM

And, although I'm not anti unions, there are issues when they put politics ahead of the union members...

*Some labor unions that enthusiastically backed President Barack Obama's health care overhaul are now frustrated and angry, fearful that it will jeopardize benefits for millions of their members.

Union leaders warn that unless the problem is fixed, there could be consequences for Democrats facing re-election next year.

"It makes an untruth out of what the president said _ that if you like your insurance, you could keep it," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union. "That is not going to be true for millions of workers now."*

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Kozy62

May-24-13 4:14 PM

People do not work for the union in almost every case...they work for a company who has to pay both stat. benefits and non stat. benefits, pay taxes, follow rules and laws, pay wages, pay for a building and the things that go with that like a mortgage, insurance, and the light bill. It's always easy to believe the owners are rich but in the vast majority of businesses, the owners have put their own money and "things" behind loans. They usually make very little more than those who work for them. The are good people and not demons. They make our economy run. They are the most affected by oil prices, tax hikes and foreign government's dumping cheap products and foreign stealing patents and conterfit products.

So, please stop cutting them down and calling them names...they deserve better!

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concerned

May-24-13 1:34 PM

If you want to work union go ahead and when they go out of business and you don't have a job any longer because they can't afford you, don't sit around and cry about it.

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rightway

May-24-13 12:51 PM

If you do not want to work union, go to a non union place of employment. Is it that hard to understand?

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rightway

May-24-13 12:50 PM

Work for another company.

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concerned

May-24-13 11:36 AM

"No one has to join a union if they don't want" They don't?? The two companies I worked for it was not an option. I was just told x amount of dollars was going to be taken out of my pay for union dues.

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concerned

May-24-13 11:34 AM

Rightway says "And I disagree that companies cannot afford it. They can. They just don't want to. Greed. Plain and simple." Seriously??? They go out of business and have no income because they are greedy?? That doesn't even make any sense!!!

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rightway

May-24-13 10:58 AM

No one has to join a union if they don't want. I'm just tired of people portraying unions to be the root of all things wrong with employment today. We would not have the employment conditions we have today if it were not for unions throughout our history. And I disagree that companies cannot afford it. They can. They just don't want to. Greed. Plain and simple.

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concerned

May-24-13 8:22 AM

rightway I never said either way whether I was for or against unions. But Facts Are Facts. For People to put forth that todays unions are the savior of the working man is just wrong. I am nearing retirement age and I have had 2 union jobs totaling about 6 years of my working career. Both those employers went out of business because they could not keep up with wage demands. But I have done just fine without a union and I have never missed a meal nor taken any kind of public assistance. Please explain to me how the unions are helping the working man if their places of employment all have to close their doors because they can not afford to pay the wage and benefit demands mainly because they can not price their product or service high enough or raise taxes in the case of public employee jobs, to generate enough money to pay the demands.

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rightway

May-24-13 7:31 AM

If unions make up such a small portion of workers, then why in the h e l l do you or anyone else care about getting rid of them?!! If they are so so bad, and no one should want to be in one, then why not just let them be? No one would care to disband them if there were not legit reasons for having them in place.

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Kozy62

May-23-13 6:45 PM

And a part of changing a contract is that the old contract is gone unless the parties extend it...that means legally it is open to change everything. It means the company can offer less.

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concerned

May-23-13 6:37 PM

Ladybug says: "They choose to do what it takes to save their job. Because if you don't you a 100 people who take it".

I thought unions was suppose to save their jobs? isn't that what the workers shell out their monthly dues for?

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concerned

May-23-13 6:33 PM

Ladybug the highest ever percentage of private sector workers that belonged to a union was back in the 1940's it was at 33% and has steadily declined since then. Is the 1940's the good old days you speak of?

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Kozy62

May-23-13 6:18 PM

ladybug, you are ignoring the facts by proposing what you think. You have the right to think what you might but you can't change facts.

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ladybug

May-23-13 6:06 PM

When good jobs where plentiful the worker had more bargining power.

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ladybug

May-23-13 6:05 PM

Try this .I know its hard,

They choose to do what it takes to save their job.Because if you don't you a 100 people who take it.

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ladybug

May-23-13 6:01 PM

Do you just listen to yourself.

When you have 7 to 8 people looking for evry job.The companies have by the sack "did that go over your head ?

When you have congress taking away all the advatages a union had with the threat of a strike "getting close "

Reagan broke the unions when he fired the traffic controllers "the good ole union boy he was "

When you go on strike you have to deal with the scabs,union members crossing the line" In the old days those people would dis appear.

When you have people with no back and settle for anything to find a job .

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concerned

May-23-13 5:47 PM

Ladybug you still have not answered my question. Why hasn't the unions gone and unionized the other 93.4% of workers if what they have to offer is so great? Do we have 93.4% of all private sector employees non-union because the union has not tried to unionize them or have those workers elected to be non-union?

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ladybug

May-23-13 5:20 PM

Am Std"s paying for it.

Out of 500 +hires only around 50 have stayed .

In one door out the the other

Imagine what this does to a companies quality.

Constantly training someone.

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ladybug

May-23-13 5:18 PM

I know alot of them people .Low wages 'no insurance

Just a happy happy little bunch.

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ladybug

May-23-13 5:16 PM

Of course you would say that concerned.There so happy. What choice do they have ??

Your right .why join a union.

Between the gov. taking away all the advantages you had,scabs and gutless union people who cross the line.

There is no advantage any more .Take $10/hr and go get some food stamps and other assisdtance.

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concerned

May-23-13 5:11 PM

Phoenix I know a lot of people that have worked at the Salem Walmart every since they opened and seem quite happy to be working there.

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concerned

May-23-13 5:09 PM

Ladybug that 93.4 % was the non-union workforce. The workforce are those that are working it is not 93.4 of the population that is looking for work. Again I ask: If belonging to a Union is so great why are not the other 93.4% of the private sector workers union members? Have the unions failed to get new members or are they perhaps non union members by choice?

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